Sincere Clarity from Cradle Catholics

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I continue my study to understand WHY it is for myself and the rest of the Christian and non Christian world to become Catholics, nonetheless this matter has me further wondering

As one who has considered Catholicism and has no plans of conversion ---- those of you who have a number of generations in the church, maybe a relative or other close friend to you who became a priest and/or woman who went the process of preparation/etc to be in a religious order

Or you are part of laity with no plans of that changing in your life -----interested in sincere answers, no agendas relative to sides that divide in the church.
 
I continue my study to understand WHY it is for myself and the rest of the Christian and non Christian world to become Catholics, nonetheless this matter has me further wondering

As one who has considered Catholicism and has no plans of conversion ---- those of you who have a number of generations in the church, maybe a relative or other close friend to you who became a priest and/or woman who went the process of preparation/etc to be in a religious order

Or you are part of laity with no plans of that changing in your life -----interested in sincere answers, no agendas relative to sides that divide in the church.
I am not too sure what your question is: do you want a cradle Catholic to tell you why you should be a Catholic or you want to hear why a cradle Catholic has stayed Catholic?

I may be wrong but I guess it is the latter. If that is, then thanks for the opportunity for giving my sharing here.

Even though I am a cradle Catholic, there was a time when my faith was indifferent and I was pretty much being sucked into the secular world. That was after college when I started working and experienced being financially independent.

I can say that I came from a traditional humble Catholic family. As such there was the discipline of practicing the religion; and freedom both in what we did and the things we had were somewhat limited. In other word, we were under the responsibility of our parents, and even grandparents.

Working life, as a professional, opened me to whole new dimension of freedom especially with the privileges and money at my disposal. I enjoyed myself by getting/doing the things that I could not have before. Religious practice became less and at times non-existence.

This went on for about six years until I got married and had children when I started attending church again. It was more for the sake of identity and for the children.

I started to become genuinely serious and ardent in my faith after a renewal experience in the Catholic Church. You can say I was sort of born again, borrowing the Protestant jargon, and on fire.

Now what was significant for me during the indifferent period, was that I never intended to change my religion for others.

To me, if I should be a Christian, it would be Catholic, which I was. Others were all inferior to Catholicism in term of originality as far as Christianity was concerned.

Protestantism was an offshoot of Catholicism. It simplified Christianity when it forgo its traditional practices and belief with its essentialism and so therefore, incomplete.

Orthodox, though has its originality but with the schism from the Catholic Church, it had lost the headship of Peter, and therefore lost its completeness in the inheritance of the apostles that Jesus had left behind. Its prestige was thus lower than the Catholic Church.

Those recent churches like the Mormon or Jehovah Witness were just too new and clearly were innovation of modern man.

Other religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism and Islam had never made an impact on me and therefore there was no affinity for them.

So to my thinking then and which had never changed was that if I were to be religious, it would be the Catholic Church.

That was my main reason being Catholic - she is the authentic Church that Jesus left behind and the fullness of Christianity is to be found there, so why settle for less?

The rest was history and here I am today.

God bless.

Reuben
 
That gives me further understanding, at least from my viewpoint, why Catholicism is what is for you yet different in the ways it is for the those that I have known.

Mutual respect and understanding is my goal in my continued study of Catholicism.

Another question, sincere answer ---- why do the Catholics that I know only, if at all, celebrate at Christmas and Easter ONLY? As I recall, Mass is a obligation for those loyal and committed all year long.
 
That gives me further understanding, at least from my viewpoint, why Catholicism is what is for you yet different in the ways it is for the those that I have known.

Mutual respect and understanding is my goal in my continued study of Catholicism.

Another question, sincere answer ---- why do the Catholics that I know only, if at all, celebrate at Christmas and Easter ONLY? As I recall, Mass is a obligation for those loyal and committed all year long.
Not a cradle Catholic but a devout one. In the OP you asked about the laity and changing that part of our life. My assumption of your question, if Catholic why not reach for a place in religious life such as a priest or nun?

Within Catholicism there is room for all people where they are. We believe God calls us to the life He wants from us. For many God calls them to married life but He also calls some to single life whether it be single from the start or single after a divorce or death of a spouse. I am a single woman after the death of one spouse and divorce from another. My second marriage was declared invalid by a tribunal and I am free to marry again. However, I believe God has called me to single life to fulfill a purpose which recently became clear.

Others are called to religious life. Being a priest or a male or female religious (a brother/sister/nun). This is specific calling from God and one that must be very well discerned. For those who undertake religious life, they can’t just think God called them for that life, they have know.

In the end God will not judge us on how high we reached but rather on did we acquiesce with what He called us to do. Did we follow His will for our life?

In the real world there are those of all religions & faith traditions who are lukewarm in their obligation to their church, including Catholics. Those you describe above are generally called C & E Catholics. They don’t appear to be devout or faithful to the obligations of the Catholic Church and they may appear to be in a state of mortal sin. I say appear because we don’t have the ability to know what is in their hearts. But this is not a unique situation for the Catholic Church, there are people in all faiths who don’t fulfill their obligations to their church.
 
That gives me further understanding, at least from my viewpoint, why Catholicism is what is for you yet different in the ways it is for the those that I have known.

Mutual respect and understanding is my goal in my continued study of Catholicism.

Another question, sincere answer ---- why do the Catholics that I know only, if at all, celebrate at Christmas and Easter ONLY? As I recall, Mass is a obligation for those loyal and committed all year long.
Hello courting tex,
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I was raised Catholic and then converted to the LDS church in my 20's.  I read and believed in the historicity of the BOM.  The BOM defines priestcraft here:
He commandeth that there shall be no priestcrafts; for, behold priestcrafts are that men preach and set themselves up for a light unto the world, that they may get gain and praise of the world; but they seek not the welfare of Zion.
In answer to your question I no longer believe in the self promotion of either the LDS or Catholic so I no longer care what they obligate me to do.
 
Another question, sincere answer ---- why do the Catholics that I know only, if at all, celebrate at Christmas and Easter ONLY? As I recall, Mass is a obligation for those loyal and committed all year long.
Your recollection is correct. What you have noticed is that of those who consider themselves to be Catholic, only a minority (estimated around 20%) attend Mass every Sunday, although it is obligatory.

That’s not to say the percentage holds for every individual throughout life. I attended Mass every Sunday for the first 25 years of my life, then lapsed for 15 years or so, and then got more serious about my faith and have participated regularly in Mass and other church programs (Bible study, learning Catechism, teaching Catechism, praying) since then.
 
That gives me further understanding, at least from my viewpoint, why Catholicism is what is for you yet different in the ways it is for the those that I have known.

Mutual respect and understanding is my goal in my continued study of Catholicism.

Another question, sincere answer ---- why do the Catholics that I know only, if at all, celebrate at Christmas and Easter ONLY? As I recall, Mass is a obligation for those loyal and committed all year long.
Hi. Why celebrate Christmas and Easter only?

During my ‘indifferent’ years,though I couldn’t remember clearly, sometimes throughout the year I would just attend the Christmas and Easter (vigil) mass only. I was still Catholic then except for being ‘nominal’.

These two masses are one of the ‘obligatory’ masses that a Catholic must go to, in other word, minimal obligation for the whole year.

Of course that was not right. Catholics are obligated to attend mass at all Sundays and days of obligation, like Christmas and Easter. Celebration of the Eucharist is very important in the life of a Catholic. It is a Sacrament, an outward form of inward grace, which we must receive in order to be nurtured in our souls so that they would be strong in our walk on this earth.

Ok. As for whether we should be clergy, religious (brothers or nuns) or laity, it is depending on our calling in life. Any state of life that we live - priesthood, religious, married or single, are equally important as long as we are in fidelity to God and to the Church. One can be as devoted and holy regardless of who we are as one is a part of the whole body of Christ.
 
I wouldn’t paint Catholics with such a broad brush.
I’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate the same treatment.
I thank God every.single.day. that I was born to a Catholic family who was practicing and devout. I’ve studied many faiths, and nothing compares, nothing offers what Catholicism does in terms of spirituality, wisdom, and my personal relationship with the Lord and the angels and saints. IN fact, I’ve always volunteered and worked for the church. This has been a huge blessing to me, and to many of my circle. I know literally thousands of devout Catholics because of my work. I love it. I could not ever be anything else. .
 
Yes, I would like sincere answers… but it also seems like a danger. Where I come from most Catholics do not know their faith but still attend church. The diocese tried to implement, albeit rather damaging, plans to “challenge” or “shock” the people in church participation seriously.

Unfortunately this meant that my fellow parishioners were uncomfortable with the new militant priest.
He was acting like a Protestant minister, and very persuasive and emotive in delivering homilies. This was a shock, as many people complained that this “culture” is not working. You can’t deal with people like a headmaster… 😦
 
Another question, sincere answer ---- why do the Catholics that I know only, if at all, celebrate at Christmas and Easter ONLY? As I recall, Mass is a obligation for those loyal and committed all year long.
Most Catholics I know attend Mass every Sunday as well as hit as many Holy Days of Obligation as possible.

So…yes, it’s an obligation. Unfortunately, many, many people don’t take it seriously.

I’m not sure I understand your OP question. I don’t know any Catholics who believe that everyone in the world needs to be Catholic. The attitude is, “We are, they’re not, and that’s their business, not ours.” 🤷
 
Another question, sincere answer ---- why do the Catholics that I know only, if at all, celebrate at Christmas and Easter ONLY? As I recall, Mass is a obligation for those loyal and committed all year long.
You would need to ask the C&E Catholics. But really, I’m glad to see the church stuffed to standing only at Christmas and Easter. Wish it were that way at every Mass.

Also this is not just a Catholic phenomena.
 
I continue my study to understand WHY it is for myself and the rest of the Christian and non Christian world to become Catholics, nonetheless this matter has me further wondering

As one who has considered Catholicism and has no plans of conversion ---- those of you who have a number of generations in the church, maybe a relative or other close friend to you who became a priest and/or woman who went the process of preparation/etc to be in a religious order

Or you are part of laity with no plans of that changing in your life -----interested in sincere answers, no agendas relative to sides that divide in the church.
Hi CourtingTex,

In light of the above, you should ask yourself: if we’re trying to get all Christians to become Catholic, then why does Uniatism, method of union of the past, and the present search for full communion say:

Pastoral activity in the Catholic Church, Latin as well as Oriental, no longer aims at having the faithful of one Church pass over to the other; that is to say, it no longer aims at proselytizing among the Orthodox.

?
 
I continue my study to understand WHY it is for myself and the rest of the Christian and non Christian world to become Catholics, nonetheless this matter has me further wondering

As one who has considered Catholicism and has no plans of conversion ---- those of you who have a number of generations in the church, maybe a relative or other close friend to you who became a priest and/or woman who went the process of preparation/etc to be in a religious order

Or you are part of laity with no plans of that changing in your life -----interested in sincere answers, no agendas relative to sides that divide in the church.
What is your question here?
 
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