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We sing it in Latin at our mass, but we do have a rather traditional mass. The Saturday mass it’s sung from what I remember.
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HeDa
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I counted to about 10 different (vernacular and latin) Gloria Chant/tunes in our hymnbooks. We change depending upon if it is a Mass with lots of young children, Christmas, Easter season, ordinary time, Solemnity or Feast, Mass with the Sacrament of Confirmation or First Holy Eucharist etc. If Gloria is supposed to be in a Feast or Solemnity Mass during a weekday Mass we might recite it if we know ahead of time that one of the good singers or cantor isn’t coming and if about 10 people are likely coming. If 20 are likely to come, we sing.
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Wow. Personally I would not have a number of Glorias during the year. The people only hear it once a week assuming they go every week which limits there time to learn a new one. Then just when you get it, a different one is sung. The idea is get people to participate and some take months to learn a long Mass part like the Gloria. I change out our Mass parts about every 3 years, but seasonally change just the Memorial Acclamation during the year so they learn all three simple tunes. The only other change (not sung) is the creed: Nicene all the way, except the Apostle’s during the seasons of Lent and Easter.
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I have absolutely fallen in love with the Gloria and look forward to it, even if I’m at the Cathedral where I’m not a fan of the version they use. Its words just resonate with me. I catch myself humming it quite often - you know, those moments when you’re wrapped up in what you’re doing and you realize you’ve been carrying a tune just under your breath?
(Of course, I’m usually humming either ours - “Mass of Renewal”, thankfully in a far better key than the original, LOL, or the one from “Mass From Age to Age” that I like so much, but still…)
(Of course, I’m usually humming either ours - “Mass of Renewal”, thankfully in a far better key than the original, LOL, or the one from “Mass From Age to Age” that I like so much, but still…)
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Dlee
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I find myself singing the Gloria all the time, especially when I am mowing the lawn!
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Pup7
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I got up this AM humming the Sanctus. I took that as a good sign. 
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We change our Mass settings seasonally around here. People engage and participate; it’s not difficult. I think you underestimate them, perhaps.
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7_Sorrows
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well, the person i am thinking of stands next to me and is shorter than i am. so when her hands are in the air, they are at my face level. she doesn’t just stand there with arms outstretched, she sways side to side so it is very distracting. hard to ignore.
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Not really. I’m not unapproachable. People feel at ease in coming up to me and speaking to me about music. Even after 3 years of “Mass of Christ The Savior,” some came up and said, “why the change. We were finally getting used to singing it.” And, some are more difficult than others. Believe me, I’ve researched practically all of them. When you change Mass settings, as you know, assuming you change all acclamations, you are having the people re-learn 4 major parts: Gloria, Gospel Acclamation, Holy, Memorial, and Lamb of God. Add in the Penitential Act, Kyrie (which we do not sing), and you have a lot of music to train to many non-musical people.
Now, if you choose to change seasonally and use the same Mass settings each year for the same season, then I can understand it a bit more. I just do that for the Memorial from the same Mass setting.
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Gee, you have great taste in music! LOL. I and the people love it too. I have some favorite parts: The modulation to the last repeat of the Lamb of God, “Save Us, Savior” (used during Lent and Easter…so beautiful) and the disinent (SAB) sharp ending of “When We Eat This Bread” Memorial acclamations.
With the Gloria, do you sing the first, “you take away the sins of the world…” at a quieter, more subdued volume from coming off of “Son of the Father,” and then build up on the second, and forte on “you are seated…?” It’s not noted on the music, but it just feels right!
Oh, speaking of humming Mass parts, my go to is usually the Psalm and I don’t know why.
Thanks, now I’m humming the Sanctus!
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I get it and understand when it’s in your face! Sounds like shes a friend and always stands next to you. True? If not, can you find another seat nearer the front of the church or will she find you and stand next to you anyway? Next time, start swaying and wave your hands too, one as a quick slap on her hand or wherever and the sway with a hard bump! LOL! Only kidding of course; I would assume you would not do that; well, in church anyway!
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yes, she is a friend. i actually have switched Mass times with the excuse the coffee and doughnuts after Mass were something i needed to avoid (actually just the doughnuts.) that was the best way to solve the problem.
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HeDa
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The problem is that there are tunes that are supposed to be used during special seasons and celebrations like Ordinarium IV (Cunctipotens genitor Deus) during passion week and the Mass with the blessing of the oils, Ordinarium 1 (Lux et origo) during Easter. Tunes that are for Advent and Lent are not supposed to be used during the Easter season for example. We are used to different tunes during the church year and expect it.
There are some 60-70 languages spoken in my parish. People come from all continents and several of the different eastern Churches in union with Rome. We use both the vernacular and Latin languages during Mass. With parishes as diverse as they are here, no one can say: “This is the way we have always done it and shall keep on doing it!” referencing back to their childhood parish in X country Y decades ago. The church building they are standing in, might not have existed 20 years ago as a Catholic church. And they might not have arrived in the country themselves.
There are some 60-70 languages spoken in my parish. People come from all continents and several of the different eastern Churches in union with Rome. We use both the vernacular and Latin languages during Mass. With parishes as diverse as they are here, no one can say: “This is the way we have always done it and shall keep on doing it!” referencing back to their childhood parish in X country Y decades ago. The church building they are standing in, might not have existed 20 years ago as a Catholic church. And they might not have arrived in the country themselves.
I prefer it when the Gloria is spoken .
I am not very keen on singing .
I don’t think God wants us to perform a concert for Him .
I like silence .
The time spent in inane singing would be more profitably spent in prayerful silence .
But that’s just me , and I don’t expect anyone to have to agree with me .
I am not very keen on singing .
I don’t think God wants us to perform a concert for Him .
I like silence .
The time spent in inane singing would be more profitably spent in prayerful silence .
But that’s just me , and I don’t expect anyone to have to agree with me .
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Loud-living-dogma
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Yes – the singing should be profound rather than inane!
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Umm, thought so and a difficult problem for you. I don’t know what more to say.
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Loud-living-dogma
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“Hey girlfriend, I really don’t appreciate you sticking your hands in my face during Mass”! Maybe 7 sorrows could try that. Awkward!
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Either of those would be much more preferable to the Gloria XV in rushed ICEL chant with organ accompaniment.
My parish is pretty traditional. Chant and polyphony gets pride of place, which wouldn’t be a problem if we actually slowed down and did them as intended.
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I do not agree, but no judgment here. That’s you.I don’t think God wants us to perform a concert for Him .
I like silence .
The time spent in inane singing would be more profitably spent in prayerful silence .
But that’s just me , and I don’t expect anyone to have to agree with me .
However, a concert is something where you sit an listen. Singing praises to God is in no way “performing” a concert for Him. I do not understand how you can relate to that. Calling singing during Mass, which are praises to Him, inane, meaning silly and stupid, is rather hard to swallow though.
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Agree, but he likes silence, no music, and states that it’s inane…silly and stupid!
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