Singing the "Our Father"

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chicago said:
You put your whole heart in, you take your whole heart out, you put your whole heart in and you shake it all about; hold hands ring round the rosey, “hey dad”, everybody shout; what is this all about?
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I’d be happier than a pig in slop if we were chanting anything at all. Chanting is old fashioned to this crowd and was thrown out when VII came along. It’s this insipid sugary “community” stuff that’s really starting to get to me now.

This whole Our Father thing is new, just started, and it has shown me that it is getting worse, not better. And this goes for my whole diocese, so not many more options for me…
 
Orogeny said:
I bet that is what Catholics were saying when the Lord’s Prayer was first chanted.

Peace

Tim
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When did non-clergy Catholic congregations “chant” the Lord’s Prayer? In the pre-NO days, I recall no instance of the congregation singing, chanting, or humming along. This dreadful communal moaning we call euphemistically call “singing” is a thoroughly recent contrivance. Applying this OPC drek to the perfection of The Lord’s Prayer is to my mind sacrilegous.
 
Was it this one?

“Our Father who art in heaven
Hallow-ed be thy name
Thy kingdom come thy will be duh-uhn
Hallow-ed be thy name
On the Earth as it is in heaven
Hallow-ed be thy name
Give us this day our daily brea-ed
Hallow-ed be thy name
Forgive us Lord as we do others
Hallow-ed by thy name
And lead us not into tempation
Hallow-ed be thy name
Forever and ever and ever and ever
Hallow-ed be thy naaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeee”

I still have nightmares about the guitar masses in the 70’s.
They were “Right-On”! 😉
 
gus said:
At my old church we sang/chanted the Gloria, Santus,and the Lords Pray. I think it was great and I miss it.You didn’t need a great voice to participate.
My new church the cantor is so overwhemling that it ends up as a solo.
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I have found that the Our Father properly chanted is the one tune that EVERYBODY (even those who will never sing for anything else) join in upon. And, usually, it sounds pretty darn good that way!
 
netmil(name removed by moderator) said:
Was it this one?

“Our Father who art in heaven
Hallow-ed be thy name
Thy kingdom come thy will be duh-uhn
Hallow-ed be thy name
On the Earth as it is in heaven
Hallow-ed be thy name
Give us this day our daily brea-ed
Hallow-ed be thy name
Forgive us Lord as we do others
Hallow-ed by thy name
And lead us not into tempation
Hallow-ed be thy name
Forever and ever and ever and ever
Hallow-ed be thy naaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeee”

I still have nightmares about the guitar masses in the 70’s.
They were “Right-On”! 😉
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Okay - you did that on purpose! AAGH! :banghead:

You now owe ME Krispy Kremes!!!

(Do you know the composer of this horrid variation, by the way?)
 
Orogeny said:
Then I guess it is a good thing you are not in charge of the liturgy.

Peace

Tim
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You didn’t answer my question. I’d still like to know who was doing all this chanting you to which you refer.

What you don’t seem to understand is that now that the liturgy is subject to fashion, you one day may be confronted by music in the Mass that you find as dreadful as I do the dreary OPC junk thats been forced on us. If they can do it to “my” sacred music, they can do it to yours just as easily.

The “old” Catholic liturgy was never devisive. Further, it was refined, stable and effectively universal for centuries. Now its often hardly recognizable from one diocese to another, if not between neighboring parishes.

I’ll say it again; the Lord’s Prayer came directly from Christ; not the OPC, and not the USCCB, and we have no place insinuating our temporal tastes on it.
 
Elzee said:
Okay - you did that on purpose! AAGH! :banghead:

You now owe ME Krispy Kremes!!!

(Do you know the composer of this horrid variation, by the way?)
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I really do think that we need a “Ping” feature on CAF.
I would have pinged you here in a heartbeat.

(send me your address on PM and I’ll get you those! You deserve it)
 
netmil(name removed by moderator) said:
Was it this one?

“Our Father who art in heaven
Hallow-ed be thy name
Thy kingdom come thy will be duh-uhn
Hallow-ed be thy name
On the Earth as it is in heaven
Hallow-ed be thy name
Give us this day our daily brea-ed
Hallow-ed be thy name
Forgive us Lord as we do others
Hallow-ed by thy name
And lead us not into tempation
Hallow-ed be thy name
Forever and ever and ever and ever
Hallow-ed be thy naaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmeeeeeeeeee”

I still have nightmares about the guitar masses in the 70’s.
They were “Right-On”! 😉
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No. But the polka band played that at my parishes “polka mass” this past summer…😦
 
Orogeny said:
I bet that is what Catholics were saying when the Lord’s Prayer was first chanted.

Peace

Tim
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I think chanting originated in the monesteries, I mean Gregorian style chant. It developed organicly, not like some catchy diddy in the top 40’s. By stylized music, I mean pop or rock, which are consumer driven and banal.

I actually don’t mind tasteful worship and praise type music for hymns, but the Our Father is something else because it is the most sacred prayer that Jesus gave us himself.
 
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with singing the “For the kingdom, the power and the glory are yours now and forever.”

In the gregorian chant version (which is singing, if I recall correctly 😉 ), after the Pater Noster is sung, the priest says or sings the Libera Nos, and then the Quia Tuum is sung by the people.

Of course, if the mass is sounding like a musical, you’d probably want to point that out to your pastor.
 
diarmait said:
In the gregorian chant version (which is singing, if I recall correctly 😉 ), after the Pater Noster is sung, the priest says or sings the Libera Nos, and then the Quia Tuum is sung by the people.
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Where are these chanting congregations? In my five decades of Mass attendance at numerous churches across America, I’ve never once heard “the people” (i.e., the lay congregation) sing a response in Latin or a Gregorian chant even in Pre-VCII days. A Latin hymn like *Panis Angelicus *at Christmas or Easter is as close as it got. In my experience, Gregorian chant has always been the domain of choirs, semenarians, monks, and nuns.
 
DWPC said:
Where are these chanting congregations? In my five decades of Mass attendance at numerous churches across America, I’ve never once heard “the people” (i.e., the lay congregation) sing a response in Latin or a Gregorian chant even in Pre-VCII days. A Latin hymn like *Panis Angelicus *at Christmas or Easter is as close as it got. In my experience, Gregorian chant has always been the domain of choirs, semenarians, monks, and nuns.
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Thomas Aquinas College in Santa Paula, California, is the first “congregation” that springs to mind. Also, we just had a Eucharistic and Marian Conference here in Reno in which the congregation participated in latin chant responses.
 
Has noone seen the mass on EWTN? It seems to me to be a plainchant of the “Our Father” the congregation is doing. I may be wrong?
 
DWPC said:
Where are these chanting congregations? In my five decades of Mass attendance at numerous churches across America, I’ve never once heard “the people” (i.e., the lay congregation) sing a response in Latin or a Gregorian chant even in Pre-VCII days. A Latin hymn like *Panis Angelicus *at Christmas or Easter is as close as it got. In my experience, Gregorian chant has always been the domain of choirs, semenarians, monks, and nuns.
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Oooooo! come to my parish!
We use Latin during most masses.
For New Years, our pastor will even say the Consecration in Latin.
Yes, we are a NO mass church.

I’m so sorry you haven’t experienced it.

(we even have an all-male choir forming for Midnight Mass Christmas. PM DJRakowski, he is joining)
 
slewi said:
No. But the polka band played that at my parishes “polka mass” this past summer…😦
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You win. I think your experience might have actually been worse than mine! Can’t even begin to imagine how I would get through this being played by a polka band at Mass. Boy, those are words that just don’t belong in the same sentence…“polka band” and “Mass”!
 
netmil(name removed by moderator) said:
I really do think that we need a “Ping” feature on CAF.
I would have pinged you here in a heartbeat.

(send me your address on PM and I’ll get you those! You deserve it)
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I bet you would too - thank you! But, unfortunately I’m just going to drool over the thought of them - I’m bound and determined to reach my goal weight!

One day I’m going to make it to your parish for Mass.
 
Elzee said:
I bet you would too - thank you! But, unfortunately I’m just going to drool over the thought of them - I’m bound and determined to reach my goal weight!

One day I’m going to make it to your parish for Mass.
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When one looks at the ingredients on a box of Krispy Kremes, no where does it say calories were added. Therefore they must be calorie free, don’t ya think?

Or have a Diet Coke and they cancel each other out. 😉
 
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