Singles: Is flirting a necessary evil?

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I only call it “evil” because I think it’s superficial, fake and just dumb! I know it’s not evil 🙂 But is it necessary?! If someone flirts with me, I think it’s fake because he obviously does that with everyone else - it means nothing and is so ridiculous (to me). But is this just a game that you must play if you want to be a part of the dating world? If I just refuse to give the girlish smile and bat the eyelashes, does that mean I can forget about being asked out?
 
I only call it “evil” because I think it’s superficial, fake and just dumb! I know it’s not evil 🙂 But is it necessary?! If someone flirts with me, I think it’s fake because he obviously does that with everyone else - it means nothing and is so ridiculous (to me). But is this just a game that you must play if you want to be a part of the dating world? If I just refuse to give the girlish smile and bat the eyelashes, does that mean I can forget about being asked out?
I’m no longer single, but it’s not so long that I’ve forgotten 🙂

If by “flirting” you mean acting friendly and interested to a man who you like and seems interested in you, then, yes, that’s pretty necessary to dating, and I don’t think evil at all.

If a man show interest, and you show no interest back, he’s very unlikely to pursue you.

If you mean, acting like you like every man, regardless of whether you do, then no, that’s totally unecessary, and probably counter-productive.

I’ll give you an example. My wife and I were set up on a blind date. My wife is very shy and quiet. After 3 or 4 dates, I really liked her, but had no idea if she liked me. Eventually, I just leaned over and kissed her, and figured it out 😉

But, if I had been less bold, he lack of “flirting” could have been disasterous.

Good luck, and God Bless

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I think it is possible to “flirt” while remaining who you are, and that this is a neccessary and useful tool to tell people you are interested. but when flirting gets excessive or changes who you are, its more than often counterproductive. But trust me, most guys are nervous when it comes to relationships, and some reciprocation of the idea of an attraction can be helpful, even if its just talking to them more often, making sure you joke and stay happy, and dont make it look like its paining you to be with the person.
 
I only call it “evil” because I think it’s superficial, fake and just dumb! I know it’s not evil 🙂 But is it necessary?! If someone flirts with me, I think it’s fake because he obviously does that with everyone else - it means nothing and is so ridiculous (to me). But is this just a game that you must play if you want to be a part of the dating world? If I just refuse to give the girlish smile and bat the eyelashes, does that mean I can forget about being asked out?
People are not telepathic, so yes, there has to be outward signs of expressing interest to let the other person know you are interested in them. Additionally, what might be constituted as "dumb’ may simply be due to nervous awkwardness.
 
I only call it “evil” because I think it’s superficial, fake and just dumb! I know it’s not evil 🙂 But is it necessary?! If someone flirts with me, I think it’s fake because he obviously does that with everyone else - it means nothing and is so ridiculous (to me). But is this just a game that you must play if you want to be a part of the dating world? If I just refuse to give the girlish smile and bat the eyelashes, does that mean I can forget about being asked out?
Largely - yes. Completely - no. You will not be asked out by men who are looking for quick progress or by shy or insecure ones. Chances are that some good guys will think you aren’t interested. However, nothing is worth compromising your integrity. If giving a flirtatious asnwert to a compliment, for instance, would feel like a lie, then it’s not worth it.

As for “everyone else”, it’s not the same all across the board. Some men will always tell a lady she looks good when she does, some only if they are attracted, some only if they have feelings. This doesn’t prejudge whether they’re good men or not.

I congratulate you on not putting up vain shows - faking it and batting your lashes whenever someone utters a half-decent complement, as you describe it, would indeed be a bit cheap. I’d just suggest that you make sure that when you want a man to know you’re interested or your like him or respect him, that he gets the message.

When it comes to replying to compliments, it may be a good idea to try and return it somehow - after all, trying to find a genuine good thing to say about someone is a charitable exercise. Don’t have to fake it - come up with a real one. 😉 At worst you can just say ,“thank you,” “thank you, that is most kind of you,” something like that. “Thank you, you don’t look/sing/speak Spanish/play volleyball bad either,” - if you believe it.

And don’t have to put up with anything you find offensive or demeaning.

Finally, let me reassure you that there are some men who appreciate the woman who doesn’t appreciate poor sexually charged jokes and similar low quality come-ons. And the one who doesn’t bat her lashes for everybody. 😉 But do make sure if you care, the guy gets the message. If you have a certain feeling and you don’t see it as wrong, then it shouldn’t normally be wrong to communicate it. If you employ a licit way of communicating a licit feeling (feelings are morally neutral, but I mean a feeling one’s free to harbour), it’s all right and there’s nothing wrong in it. Also, if you prefer to be descriptive rather than illustrative - e.g. saying, “that’s impressive,” “wow, I liked that,” “you’re very kind,” “I find your company comforting,” “you look good tonight,” rather than letting it show through some act, then that’s fine as well.

In short, be yourself. 😉 Your nickname gives you a suggestion too, I trust. 😉
 
I only call it “evil” because I think it’s superficial, fake and just dumb! I know it’s not evil 🙂 But is it necessary?! If someone flirts with me, I think it’s fake because he obviously does that with everyone else - it means nothing and is so ridiculous (to me). But is this just a game that you must play if you want to be a part of the dating world? If I just refuse to give the girlish smile and bat the eyelashes, does that mean I can forget about being asked out?
As has been said, you can let a man know that he is attractive to you and appreciated without resorting to silly, fake gestures or words. I’m not one to bat my eyelashes, but I must admit that I’ve cultivated a few things to let a man know that I’m interested.

One little thing that I learned from an actual scientific study might work for you. Men like to hold eye contact longer than is comfortable for most women if they are interested. If a woman can look a man in the eyes (say across a crowded room) and count in her head for 3 seconds while letting a smile develop before looking away. . . well if the attraction is mutual and the guy is available, the guy usually comes on over. Even an unavailable guy will likely give a women a nice smile back in those circumstances because it is flattering, non-threatening and still leaves them in control of the situation whether they want to “pursue” or not.

Another thing that I don’t consider flirting (because I do it with men and women) is to give sincere compliments about someone’s nice tie or new dress or haircut or their lovely voice. It can open conversation or make you seem more approachable in general. It may be regional differences too because I think people in Oklahoma and Texas tend to speak more with strangers out in public and strike up conversations in the grocery line, etc.

People like to have things recognized when they have made some effort or it is something unique that sets them apart. For instance, I was in the airport and waiting behind an older gentleman who obviously took care with his appearance. I noticed his suit was well-tailored and it reminded me of an English style, so I told him what a lovely suit it was and said it reminded me of England. He went from looking a little tired and bored to animated and told me that he had in fact had it made in England. When he walked away, he had a bit of pep in his step. I’ve had similar experiences with men of “dating” age for me and helped to make someone’s day a little better regardless of whether it landed me a date.
 
I’m old and married, so I’m hardly an expert at what young people do nowadays in the courting arena.

But I have always considered it a man’s duty to flirt, and was shameless in doing it myself, long ago. What does a guy expect a girl to do? Come up to him and tell him she’s interested? No sir. It’s the guy’s duty to initiate “interest” signals. If the girl isn’t interested, she’ll let that be known right away.

Now, having said that, back in my younger days I used to even discuss that situation with girls. Back then, anyway, they felt pretty disadvantaged when it came to sending signals to men. Maybe the men would think they were easy or something if they initiated things. So I never thought it out of the way if a girl flirted within reasonable limits. What are they supposed to do if the guy isn’t noticing them? Ring a bell? Maybe he’s shy. Maybe he’s not onto the “art of flirting”. Maybe he’s distracted.

Finally, though I’m getting on in years, there are still plenty of women significantly older than I am. I make it a point to flirt with them, moderately and tastefully. They know it’s just being gentlemanly, but I know they appreciate it most of the time. Every woman suffers from the passage of time, and it’s hard on them. But there is always at least one thing in which they can still believe they are attractive and likely do, and don’t think you’re being just a complete flatterer if you mention it. Eyes are a big one. Womens’ eyes remain just as pretty at age 80 as they are at age 20. Delicate hands are another. One of my favorite things is to ask an older woman if she plays the piano. No matter what her answer is, I remark that “oh well, I noticed how slender (or delicate, or animated, or whatever) your hands are. My sister plays the piano and her hands look just like yours. I associate that with playing the piano. I guess I’m right/wrong this time.” Skin is another “You wouldn’t be Irish, would you? Oh, I just noticed how your skin is unusually fair and clear. I’m Irish myself, and I associate that fair skin with being Irish. Sorry, no offense intended, and I hope you don’t mind my accusing you of being Irish.”

We’re talking 60+ year olds here, in my case. Below that? Noooooooooooo. Be sure the woman is substantially older than you are. I’m married, remember? My wife doesn’t care if I flirt with older ladies, and understands. (I say flirtatious things to my wife that I really mean, but I can’t say them here. When you’re married, it’s different.)
 
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