Sinners in the Hands of an Angry Church

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Thanks for sharing it, when I first read the title of this thread and the book I thought “Oh no, here we go” but it wasn’t like that at all. I agree. It depends who your talking to as well though I believe, whether it’s someone looking for answers/redemption or someone trying to justify the sexual acts of homosexuality or same sex marriage in the scriptures.

In the cases she described I agree with her (Only read 2 pages so far from where you linked).

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Thank you for reading
Josh
 
Thanks Josh. It was hard to know what to expect, given that the book is from Exodus International (a now-closed organization that promoted “conversion therapy”); but I think he does a pretty good job of presenting the conservative view point.

P.S. I haven’t read the rest of the book, so I don’t make any claims about whether it’s all good or not. For all I know “Oh no, here we go” could yet be an appropriate reaction.
 
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I’m not one to say “Hey I just read this” … but, well, hey I just read this:

Sinners in the Hands of an Angry Church (a chapter from God’s Grace and the Homosexual Next Door).
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I read the pages you presented and yes it is interesting. While churches need to being loving and charitable the writer did not explain how to handle situations where practicing homosexuals want to become members of the church or volunteer for positions like say working with children’s or the youth group.
 
Wannano said:
I read the pages you presented and yes it is interesting. While churches need to being loving and charitable the writer did not explain how to handle situations where practicing homosexuals want to become members of the church or volunteer for positions like say working with children’s or the youth group.
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Keep in mind, I haven’t read the whole book, just that one chapter.
 
Wannano said:
I read the pages you presented and yes it is interesting. While churches need to being loving and charitable the writer did not explain how to handle situations where practicing homosexuals want to become members of the church or volunteer for positions like say working with children’s or the youth group.
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Peter_J said:
Keep in mind, I haven’t read the whole book, just that one chapter.
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That is true, there may be more info in the book.
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Too late to edit my response, but after thinking about your question again I think I should have said "Possibly the book did not explain how to handle situations where practicing homosexuals want to become members of the church or volunteer for positions like working with children’s or the youth group, but that doesn’t seem a problematic omission to me. I don’t know if it was meant as a handbook or what exactly, but I’d say the important point, w.r.t. to that question, is quite simply the fact that practicing-homosexuals are sinning. (It strikes me that, even if the book had a what-to-do-if-a-practicing-homosexual-wants-to-volunteer-at-your-church section, then someone could say “Hang on, why isn’t there a follow-up section about the situation where you discover that someone who is already volunteering at your church is a practicing homosexual?” so then the author adds another section, and so on, but finally dies while there are still people complaining about some case or other not being covered in the book. 😉 But I digress – and somewhat facetiously at that. :))

But that aside, I think there was one, but only one, statement in that chapter that should get a “Oh no, here we go” reaction. I mean when he says that holiness is “the opposite of homosexuality”. 🤷 I don’t claim to be a gay-expert (or ex-gay-expert) like Chambers (incidentally, he wasn’t just on the staff of Exodus, but its president), but I do know that holiness is the opposite of unholiness, not the opposite of homosexuality.
Happy New Year to you Peter J.
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Well thank you. 🙂

Happy New Year to you.
 
Peter_J said:
I mean when he says that holiness is “the opposite of homosexuality”.
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P.S. I try not to pay undue attention to things that are posted on Internet discussion forums (and hope that others don’t pay undue attention to things that *I *post on Internet discussion forums :cool:) … but I couldn’t help noticing that there’s a post on the Catholic Answers Forum that says, even more concisely than Chambers’ statement, “The homosexual orientation is evil.” :hmmm: (I hope the person who posted that will read the chapter I linked to above, and possibly ponder some of the kind statements that Chambers made vis a vis homosexual persons. :))
 
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