Sinning on Sunday

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I’m reading a commentary on the 10 Commandments by St. Thomas Aquinas, and in his commentary on the Third Commandment he mentions that one should make an effort to avoid sin.

I’m wondering, would committing a deliberate venial sin on a Sunday be more serious or grave than usual?
 
YehoiakhinEx232 said:
I’m reading a commentary on the 10 Commandments by St. Thomas Aquinas, and in his commentary on the Third Commandment he mentions that one should make an effort to avoid sin.

I’m wondering, would committing a deliberate venial sin on a Sunday be more serious or grave than usual?
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First off, I think “one should make an effort to avoid sin” each and every day. :+1:t4:

Regarding whether a sin would be more serious simply because it is committed on a Sunday, I would doubt it. Now committing any sin deliberately as you say would automatically make it more serious, because one is sinning deliberately. That’s a big deal.
 
We should make every effort to avoid all sin, even ones for which our culpability is mitigated by (1) diminished gravity, (2) insufficient knowledge, and/or (3) compromised consent, which is all what venial sin is. Sins are not intrinsically mortal or venial as these two words refer to the subjective culpability imputed to an individual given the three criteria I mentioned. “Deliberate venial sin” makes about as much sense to me as “accidental mortal sin”.

In an case, Sunday is special with regards to our obligation to assist at Mass because the Church, in her power to bind and to loosen, has obligated us to do so, not because missing Mass on Sunday is somehow more intrinsically grave than missing Mass on a weekday. Similarly eating meat on a Friday (or specifically Lenten Friday depending on your jurisdiction) is not inherently more grave than eating meat on a Thursday. One is a sin and the other is absolutely not a sin due to an obligation imposed onto us by Holy Mother Church.
 
YehoiakhinEx232 said:
I’m wondering, would committing a deliberate venial sin on a Sunday be more serious or grave than usual?
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When sin is deliberate it transcends the definition of venial and becomes mortal…you might just be over thinking this.
 
A venial sin, even with intent, cannot be mortal if it is not an issue with “grave” matter.
 
A sin is only mortal if its serious and you do it on purpose. Not advocating sin here but there’s lots of things you can do on purpose that arnt serious.

Cutting someone in line, eating the last cookie, telling a lie why youre late for work.
 
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A venial sin, even with intent, cannot be mortal if it is not an issue with “grave” matter.
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If you are fully awsre it is a sin, and you commit it anyway, it us calculated, which makes it grave.
 
Telling a lie deliberaly is a sin. Now, depending on the lie, it could be venial or mortal. Lying about why you are 10 minutes late for work is a different category than lying under oath in a criminal trial.
 
It still has to be a grave matter. Intent or knowledge does not make a venial matter a grave one. It has to be a grave matter done with full knowledge and deliberate intent to be mortal.
 
Then why is grave matter required as one of the three components of mortal sin as well as knowledge and intent? You basically saying even minor sins done on purpose are Mortal. Gravity is an entirely different criteria than intent or knowledge, and the three are required to evulate the species of sin. Gravity is independent of knowledge and intent, not dependent on them. I have scrupulosity, and my Confessor has had to explain to me why something i am talking about isnt mortal because even though i did it deliberatly, it isnt a grave matter. Now, gravity can change with different circumstances, so judgment is required to assess. But you cannot make a venial matter a grave one except to change the circumstances. My example of telling a fib vs. Lying under oath is an example of a venial vs. Grave matter.
 
Hereiam said:
ALL sin is grave…its just the willful knowledge AND full consent that is needed with it to be mortal.
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You seem to be saying that all sin is mortal. That just isn’t the case. it is explained in the Catechism (1854-1864). All sin should be taken seriously. yes, but not all are mortal.
 
Mtatum1958 said:
You seem to be saying that all sin is mortal.
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No. That is not what I am saying at all…If you follow the thread, the question by the OP was “would committing a deliberate venial sin on a Sunday be more serious or grave than usual?”

The operative word is not “Sunday” but “deliberate”.

Deliberate makes the otherwise venial sin mortal. It may not be the gravity of the venial sin, but by taking it upon oneself to say it is venial and not mortal is at odds with the First Commandment, where we are saying we are wise enough to skirt the intend of the Law by only focusing on the letter of the law.

Venial sin may only damage our relationship with God (where mortal sin breaks the relationship), deliberate damaging this sacred relationship is extremely grave!

This makes a deliberate venial sin, whether on Sunday or any day, grave matter, and by virtue of being deliberate it indicates both full knowledge, and willful consent…and therefore the actual sin is both grave matter, but meets the litmus test for mortal sin.

What is left out of the conversation is the mercy of God, where if we acknowledge the sin, confess it, are contrite, and do penance, we are absolved of our human frailty.

This should be our focus.

Pax et Bonum!
 
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I agree that any commandments broken has the potential to constitute grave matter but not every sin constitutes grave matter. Deliberately stealing all the money from somebodies bank account is different than deliberately stealing a piece of your sisters bubble gum. The two differer in gravity. Just because it’s deliberate, does not make it mortal. Most 8 year olds know taking something is wrong but I haven’t heard anyone ever try to argue that taking a piece of gum, deliberately, is mortal… even if it’s done an a Sunday 🤣
 
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Hereiam said:
What is left out of the conversation is the mercy of God,
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Thank you for your post. I agree with that and I think I understand your reasoning. What is the differentiation, then, between mortal and venial?
 
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