Sins, why so many?

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Does this seem like “…my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” to any of you?

List of Sins

Seems like someone isn’t telling the truth, either Jesus or the Catholic Church.
 
Do you mean that this list is not an accurate representation of sins that need to be confessed? I thought it was quite accurate. 🤷
 
Do you mean that this list is not an accurate representation of sins that need to be confessed? I thought it was quite accurate. 🤷
I did not look at it in detail. I suggest the Catechism as a guide on Church teaching, not the rantings of someone making apocalyptic claims.

God gave us the Ten Commandments, they haven’t changed in thousands of years, although there are certainly new ways to sin against them as technology advances. In addition to telling us that hs yoke is easy, Jesus also tells us that the path is narrow and few will enter. Matthew’s gospel is very instructive, vis-a-vis sheep and goats.

So, my suggestion to you is that you not take one verse out of context from the rest of the bible and that you meditate carefully on the Ten Commandments.
 
You only have to worry about 2 commandments that Jesus gave us…

Love God with all your heart and all your mind and love your neighbor as yourself.

As for the list, it is a good way to jog the memory.
 
Does this seem like “…my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” to any of you?

List of Sins

Seems like someone isn’t telling the truth, either Jesus or the Catholic Church.
Do you think it is too much for the Soul?
What about 30 thousand diseases that there are for the Body? Do you know that you carry 2 pounds (1kilo) of bacteria and virus in your body? Is this a light burden? Or an easy yoke?

Remember that Jesus said “burden” and said “yoke”.
To avoid that list is the yoke, it is a yoke do you know? and it a burden, do you know?
Simply Jesus yoke is easy and Jesus burden is light.
You just interpreted it as if there is no yoke and no burden. Wrong interpretation.
Example: better faithful sex than AIDS. Got it?
 
It’s a strange question if you think about it. What is the definition of sin but turning your back on God?

What you’re suggesting in essence is it is easier to turn one’s back on God then to do things out of love and understanding for Him. That may be so, but aligning ourselves with the will of God makes it easier and lighter.

The ten commandments were given to us to show the best way in which we can live. God made us and therefore He knows how we can best embrace life without harming ourselves.

The purpose of reconciliation is reuniting yourself with God, not confessing for punishment like a secular crime. Jesus took care of the punishment for us. We hurt ourselves and others when we sin.

So the question you gave, why so many sins should not be directed at the church, or at Jesus, but at our own nature. Why have we made so many ways to turn from God through our fallen nature?
 
You’re looking at it wrong…neither Christ nor the church is wrong. Christ also said, “if you knew how to suffer, you would not suffer.” If you look at the sins as a burden, you suffer. If you see them as pleasing to God, and you love God with all your heart, your burden is easy…your yolk, light. If you know how to suffer, you do not suffer.

Not that I’m so great at it…I suffer. But if our lives are ordered properly and we follow Christ truly, this is not the burden it appears to be.
 
When a person must go to confession for simply having a thought or doing something that is natural to human nature, well…that seems odd to me. God made us this way, with the parts and the human nature that we have. The 10 commandments are straightforward, but I’d like to know who in the Catholic Church extrapolated to the degree that there are so many more than 10 commandments.

Who exactly decided on the extrapolation? I find many sins to be really reaching, taking the extrapolation to a ridiculous degree.
 
Why don’t you make a list of the virtues that oppose each of those sins, then you’ll see the good side.

It’s not simply a negative, to refuse these evils.
 
Some of the material on that list is no good, so I wouldn’t use it.

But refusing to sin isn’t simply a negative, that’s not how to successfully overcome sins. One takes up the opposing virtue, which is a beautiful thing and encourages one.

Chastity and purity are beautiful virtues, modesty and kindness, honesty and meekness, mildness and courage, holiness and hope, faith and discipline – all the things that are the opposite of sins are what the Faith is about, and they are all in Christ.
 
Where is this, I never heard of it.
Doh! Looks like this was in an apocryphal book, not the Gospel. Sorry! Still, the rest is true. Look at the virtues that avoiding these sins would bring. *If *we are properly ordered, and desire good, this would not be a burden.

Just like working at a job you love doesn’t really feel like work!
 
I noticed they list the use of Natural Family Planning as a mortal sin.
 
When a person must go to confession for simply having a thought or doing something that is natural to human nature, well…that seems odd to me. God made us this way, with the parts and the human nature that we have. The 10 commandments are straightforward, but I’d like to know who in the Catholic Church extrapolated to the degree that there are so many more than 10 commandments.

Who exactly decided on the extrapolation? I find many sins to be really reaching, taking the extrapolation to a ridiculous degree.
There is some confusion here. God made us with free will. We have a fallen nature. It is fallen from what he made because of our choice. He did not make us sinful. That would be ludicrous.

In order to understand perhaps you could look as something on the list and try to logically and objectively figure out why the church teaches what it teaches.
 
Do you know what the purpose of a yoke is? A yoke is a device used by farmers to lead animals where they want them to go. A yoke can be hard to carry, especially if the farmer is unreasonable. If he’s jerking back and forth, beating with a whip, it can be a very heavy burden indeed. But if you have a good farmer, the yoke is very easy on the animal.

Yet there is a truth to the yoke that must be acknowledged. The yoke is only easy, even in the hands of the most gentle farmer… when the animal being controlled goes where the master wants it to go. When it goes against the yoke, the yoke begins to chafe. It begins to rub the animal in an unpleasant way. The yoke is still very light, it is only telling us where we need to go for our own good (to dodge a hole) or even for the good of the world (planting God’s seed.) But to those who don’t follow the yoke, it starts off as a light chafe, but can indeed become painful.

So yes, Jesus yoke is very easy and his burden light. It’s still a guide though, a yoke that we must follow.

Secondly, seeing those lists of sins as ‘things I can’t do that would be fun’ is part of the problem. Instead of seeing it as things you can’t do, think of it as things that will cause you harm. So many people see the ‘fence’ that God keeps up around us to keep our souls safe as the hindrance. Before they knew about the ‘fence’ they ran around, falling into holes and getting hurt. They were free to do whatever they wanted! They ran around endangering their bodies and souls! Once they were made aware of the fence, once they knew they were safe from falling… instead of being free to run around inside the fence… they huddle behind it, afraid to even move…

It makes no sense for those who have no fence and can fall off the mountain to be running around ‘free’, while those who know the boundaries and CAN run around free to huddle in fear that they might get near the fence.
 
When a person must go to confession for simply having a thought or doing something that is natural to human nature, well…that seems odd to me.
I think you will have to be more specific in what you are thinking here, because we do not go to confession for things that are natural to human nature-- I am eating a sandwich right now, that is something normal and it isn’t a sin.
God made us this way, with the parts and the human nature that we have.
Well, no. God made us in perfect holiness. Our original parents sinned against God and the result is fall human nature, not human nature as God created it.
The 10 commandments are straightforward, but I’d like to know who in the Catholic Church extrapolated to the degree that there are so many more than 10 commandments.
There are 10. We transgress the 10 in many ways.
I find many sins to be really reaching, taking the extrapolation to a ridiculous degree.
Well, several people have already told you that the website you are reading has no endorsement from the Church and cannot be taken as Church teaching.
 
I noticed they list the use of Natural Family Planning as a mortal sin.
Well then that would NOT be the examine to use!

Can one misuse NFP …sure. But it is not per se a sin but a licit means (readers see Compendium of Catechism for nice brief overview)
 
Does this seem like “…my yoke is easy and my burden is light.” to any of you?

List of Sins

Seems like someone isn’t telling the truth, either Jesus or the Catholic Church.
That list (while it can be correct of course on many things) is not one to use…

And certainly Jesus is telling the truth …as is his Church.

But as to the reality of many possible sins – yes there are many many ways to love and do good…and many ways to sin and do evil. So many uses or possible misuses of freedom.

Jesus said “my yoke is easy and my burden is light” – he gives us the grace --to live in love …indeed he give us true life.
 
I think you will have to be more specific in what you are thinking here, because we do not go to confession for things that are natural to human nature-- I am eating a sandwich right now, that is something normal and it isn’t a sin.

**Masturbation is a completely natural human urge/function. Toddlers discover it, for goodnes sake. We are built to be sexual beings. How does being a normal human with an urge that is built into us constitute not loving God?

It is human nature and the nature of the mind to think thousands of different thoughts, to want or desire something, to want to be comfortable, etc. Yet if we even think of committing adultery, it’s just as bad as actually doing the act? How is this reasonable?**

Well, no. God made us in perfect holiness. Our original parents sinned against God and the result is fall human nature, not human nature as God created it.

**If God made us in ‘perfect holiness’, then we would have been perfectly holy. We are not. We are human, with both goodness and evil in us. **

There are 10. We transgress the 10 in many ways.

Well, several people have already told you that the website you are reading has no endorsement from the Church and cannot be taken as Church teaching.
It may not have an “endorsement”, yet the sins are consistant with what I’ve learned and been told and read about here. Why would it need an endorsement if it’s consistant?
 
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