Sister Wives reality shows

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We live in insane times.
7_Sorrows said:
Surprisingly these women are okay with the arrangement as long as they approve of the
new wife. However, we all know human nature and how complicated this arrangement could be.
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I have to wonder if anyone considers how the children feel about these “arrangements.” I can see ways in which it would be better than being in a divorce- or unwed-parenthood-caused blended family situation, but also ways in which it would be worse. Divorced parents can at least tell their children they never went out looking for the unhappy situation they wound up in. (That is, a situation in which the children don’t simply grow up in the same household with just their own mom, their own dad and their own brothers and sisters, who all remain at peace with each other for life.)
 
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I have wondered about the children also.
Polygamy was a part of the Mormon religion for a long time and then it was not allowed in mainstream Mormonism.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Surprisingly these women are okay with the arrangement as long as they approve of the
new wife.
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You’re a guy, right?
Listen to me.
These women are not “okay with it”. No woman is ever okay with having to fight for attention for her man. It’s degrading ugly, even for the woman who “wins” the questionable prize of this mans love.
The woman may say or pretend to anything, for any number of reasons, while a camera is shoved in her face, but she is not okay with it.
 
I would not be okay with it, you might not be okay with it and many others might not,
but I would say these women are agreeing to the arrangement. It sure appears that way to me. I am not into the lifestlye portrayed in 50 shades of grey either, but there are women who are. I am not a psychologist and don’t understand it, but
there are women open to different lifestyles as into polygamy and open marriages. No, that is not what God wants, but we know many people want to live by their own rules and not God’s laws.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I would not be okay with it, you might not be okay with it and many others might not,
but I would say these women are agreeing to the arrangement. It sure appears that way to me. I am not into the lifestlye portrayed in 50 shades of grey either, but there are women who are. I am not a psychologist and don’t understand it, but
there are women open to different lifestyles as into polygamy and open marriages. No, that is not what God wants, but we know many people want to live by their own rules and not God’s laws.
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There seem to be three possibilities: (a) they’re not OK with it but don’t feel they can say so or (b) as with 50 shades there is some sort of masochism involved or (c ) being OK with it is according to their identity, so they take any discomfort as one of us would take the recognition that we are feeling possessive in a wrong way.

Everyone has to learn to put aside what we want from our own point of view only, after all. That’s part of maturing. What we think is right to put aside and what is wrong to put aside depends a great deal on upbringing.
 
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TV shows seem to get worse and worse. It’s hard to find good ones, I’ll still to reruns of Everybody Loves Raymond, Law & Order, The Office and Law & Order SVU, and Shark Tank lol
 
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GospelOfMatthew said:
TV shows seem to get worse and worse. It’s hard to find good ones, I’ll still to reruns of Everybody Loves Raymond, Law & Order, The Office and Law & Order SVU, and Shark Tank lol
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LOL - I go back even further to the old black and white tv shows from the 50’s and 60’s
or the classic Western tv shows like Bonanza, The Big Valley and Gunsmoke. I
watch a lot of MeTv and the old shows on the Inspiration network. I haven’t watched
mainstream American tv like ABC, CBS, NBC in years except for some of the talent
shows. I recently got cable again and even
with all of these channels, many times I can find nothing to watch.
 
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Whoops!
My bad, pleas accept my abject apologies 😟

(This is me with 🥚 on my face 😐)
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That is okay. You are not the first.
 
That was my thought as well. You can “be ok” with a lot of things if you’ve been taught that not being ok with them is sinful.
 
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That was my thought as well. You can “be ok” with a lot of things if you’ve been taught that not being ok with them is sinful.
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Or even that it is less virtuous or generous than to not be OK with it. We can even act as if we’re OK with things that we’re not just because we want to be some version of a “good sport” or “low maintenance.” Most people who aren’t “high maintenance” have submerged their own first reaction of whether or not they want to do things that their spouse wants or their social circle thinks they ought to want.
 
I noticed the new season for both shows
started last night. Sister Wives and Seeking Sister Wives follows. I didn’t realize this is not the first season for Seeking Sister Wives so both shows must have a following.
 
Re: how could these women be OK with this?

This discussion seems to be missing the religious impetus driving these people to have polygamous families. The vast majority of polygamists in North America (there are huge communes in Alberta Canada and Chihuahua/Sonora Mexico also) are “Fundamentalist” Mormons. These branches of Mormonism teach that plural marriage is necessary to go to the highest level of Heaven and women who refuse to abide by “the principle” are damned to Hell.

These shows always seem to pick some modern looking, relatively down to Earth family with 2, 3, maybe 4 wives, who may wear pants, have jobs outside of the home, who are educated, who can read, and most importantly, are older than 25. This is not the norm for most Mormon polygamists. Women are married off in their teens, they are barely educated (ensuring that they don’t leave the compounds), there may be 10 or 15 wives per man, even more if he is high up in their priesthood pecking order. These women get almost no say in who they are to marry. It’s almost 100% arranged by the men in their families, and worse, they’re told that God has revealed to their fathers that they are to marry such and such 70 year old geezer. Who are these women to disobey a direct command by God Almighty revealed to his servants in the priesthood?

These shows also don’t show what tends to happen to many young men in these communities who are from the “wrong family” and are too handsome or ambitious: they get kicked out of the community, and are nearly as uneducated as their female counterparts, leaving them to lives of crime and drug abuse.

I have some far extended family who are Mormon polygamists. I’ve seen this with my own eyes. It’s not at all a glamorous lifestyle and I have immense pity on all the women and “lost boys” born into this lifestyle. It’s nothing more than a sexual pyramid scheme by which the “prophet” at the top gets a ginormous harem of women and brood of descendants and as you go down in importance the fewer and fewer wives and children you have.
 
I used to be LDS. In my conversations with the missionaries they’d say that polygamy is illegal but practiced in the open in rural Utah/Arizona/Wyoming. I guess it’s very hard to prove legally (just what I’ve heard, I’m not a lawyer).
 
I don’t know if that’s the case today or to what extent it may be in the post-David O. McKay LDS Church. Mormons today are desperate to appear as mainstream as possible and they will not tolerate violations of Official Declaration 1 (the “revelation” rescinding polygamy in the LDS Church). This wasn’t always the case though before the 1950s. My own grandmother was almost married off to a polygamist within the main LDS Church secretly and this was during World War 2! Mormons will of course deny this. She was from southern Utah.
 
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