six nuns excommunicated for heresy!

[why_me]

“Show the importance of?” No, it was done for just the reason that I stated. mormons were getting so burned out by the constant demands of the “church”, that something had to be done. How do I know? One of our local mormon “bishops” let it slip to a co-worker of mine who was dating a mormon girl. He subsequently married her and converted her to Catholicism. I don’t know about you, Why me, but we dedicate at least five nights a week to our family. Don’t need the “church” to tell us that it is important.

You are wrong on this one. Hopefully, many catholics do give five nights a week to their family. But I doubt it. The world is a busy place, filled with hobbies and school activities. Not to mention game players, TV, DVD’s and other forms of technology designed to split the family apart.

A mormon bishop is just a guy with his own take on opinions and life. He was wrong also. No one is forced to accept responsibilites. I haven’t had a calling since 1990. No problem. And when a major calling is given to someone, it is required to get permission from the spouse, I believe. Quite often church events during the week can be family events. Or they can be events for teenagers and young adults. The idea is that through fellowship one can feel connected to a greater whole and give a more holistic picture to a life. The early church was no different. Paul did not stress live individually away from other church members. But to fellowship one another so to be strong in Christ.

I started a thread about what the press is saying about the lds church. Family Home Evening was mentioned.

The catholic nuns are now as always fellowshipping eachother. For after all, they will now need each other more than ever.

 

[LaudemGloriae]

Just to be sure to post here, lest anyone get these two confused …

Between Condemned Army of Mary and Authentic Lady of All Nations: An Ocean of Separation by Dr. Miravalle

Also from the Bishop Punt of Haarlem

de-vrouwe.net/downloads/english/070918_Army_of_Mary.pdf

ewtn.com/expert/answers/our_lady_of_all_nations.htm

Seems like these poor nuns are being shunned away from the church. Or at least the stress is on separation from the nuns until their heresy is done away with and they come back into the church.

But actually, no, it’s not specifically addressing these 6 nuns, but the whole Army of Mary movement, out of Quebec. These nuns were excommunicated because of being a part of this.

 

[estesbob]

And yet, it does seem that the person in question who told her story has modified it just alittle. It is becoming more believable after the modification and explanations.

I wouldn’t feel sad for Mormons. Many are doing just fine in their religion. They are as happy as a turnip in a turnip patch.

Define Christian and lets see if the mormons fit the definition. How should a christian act toward his or her fellow human beings? What traits or characteristics should a christian possess?

So the only purpose of Religion is to feel happy? The fact they have been misled have had their imortal souls put in jeapordy matters not as long as they are “happy”?

 

[hosemonkey]

Posted by Why me.

“A mormon bishop is just a guy with his own take on opinions and life.”

Really? Given the catholic opinion that these people are not really “bishops”, are they not required to toe the party line in dealing with those whom they oversee? Do they just freelance or is there some sort of guidelines to follow? As the previous poster observed, is the only requirement that one “be happy”? “Happy as turnips in a turnip patch?” They may be happy, but turnips are not very smart. Is not truth important as well?
Why me, you are still trying to serve two masters. You have little credibility as a Catholic and less as a mormon.

 

[why_me]

So the only purpose of Religion is to feel happy? The fact they have been misled have had their imortal souls put in jeapordy matters not as long as they are “happy”?

It would seem so. Many people are now choosing their faith to feel happy. Just look at the crowds at Joel Osteen’s arena. Many former catholics are there in attendance. Do I agree? No. But we seem to live in a bubblegum culture.

What does it mean to be misled? Most can claim that they were misled by the old faith if they now find a new faith. Why would a person change his or her faith? It is either because of misleading or bubblegum. :juggle:

 

[why_me]

Posted by Why me.

“A mormon bishop is just a guy with his own take on opinions and life.”

Really? Given the catholic opinion that these people are not really “bishops”, are they not required to toe the party line in dealing with those whom they oversee? Do they just freelance or is there some sort of guidelines to follow? As the previous poster observed, is the only requirement that one “be happy”? “Happy as turnips in a turnip patch?” They may be happy, but turnips are not very smart. Is not truth important as well?
Why me, you are still trying to serve two masters. You have little credibility as a Catholic and less as a mormon.

A catholic bishop wears his priesthood every day. He is more or less always acting as his capacity of bishop. However, a mormon bishop works in the world. He is a mechanic, garbage man, office worker, teacher etc. I cannot expect every opinion he may have or make to be that of a bishop. This is my meaning that he is just a guy with opinions and have his own take on life.

 

[dosdog]

A catholic bishop wears his priesthood every day. He is more or less always acting as his capacity of bishop. However, a mormon bishop works in the world. He is a mechanic, garbage man, office worker, teacher etc. I cannot expect every opinion he may have or make to be that of a bishop. This is my meaning that he is just a guy with opinions and have his own take on life.

Father Joseph, whose appointment was approved by the Vatican, is in charge of one of China’s main dioceses. It has a flock of at least 50,000 peopleThe diocese runs a total of 19 churches, a seminary, a convent, a clinic and a school. Its flock includes old and young, and is drawn from different social groups
China Catholics throng to church
Sunday, 23 September 2007
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/7009165.stm

 

[hosemonkey]

A catholic bishop wears his priesthood every day. He is more or less always acting as his capacity of bishop. However, a mormon bishop works in the world. He is a mechanic, garbage man, office worker, teacher etc. I cannot expect every opinion he may have or make to be that of a bishop. This is my meaning that he is just a guy with opinions and have his own take on life.

That opinion is a cop-out, if mormon “bishops” want to be taken seriously. Would you go to a part-time cardiac surgeon? A part-time lawyer? Part-time don’t cut it when you are talking about the welfare of souls.

 

[Zooey]

Basically, you define Christian as one who subscribes to the Nicene Creed. If you do not know the Nicene Creed, here it is:
We believe in one God,
the Father, the Almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all that is, seen and unseen.

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ,
the only Son of God,
eternally begotten of the Father,
God from God, light from light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made,
of one Being with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
was incarnate of the Holy Spirit and the Virgin Mary
and became truly human.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again
in accordance with the Scriptures;
he ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
and his kingdom will have no end.

We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father [and the Son],
who with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead,
and the life of the world to come. Amen.

Mormons do not belive in the Nicene Creed. They are not Christians. It is not just how you behave, but how you BELIEVE…

:yup:

A catholic bishop wears his priesthood every day. He is more or less always acting as his capacity of bishop. However, a mormon bishop works in the world. He is a mechanic, garbage man, office worker, teacher etc. I cannot expect every opinion he may have or make to be that of a bishop. This is my meaning that he is just a guy with opinions and have his own take on life.

I have to say that a ahem!! cough, cough!!] bishop being uch: “a guy with opinions and have[ing] his own take on life” is:dts: :dts: :dts: NOT something that inspires me with confidence…

 

[HollyDolly]

No they won’t get any money,mainly because I never lived in Hot Springs,and only went with family to visit my great aunts.
I am just sorry they took this path.I know that catholics there will help the sisters whether or not the mormons do.
I don’t think there are by the way many mormons in Hot Springs.
Lot of Baptists and such there.

 

[P_C_A]

It seems to me that a person of what ever faith excommunicates them self when they stray from the doctrine of their church. A church of what ever faith should be able to recognize a heretic. Indeed they have an obligation to uphold their core beliefs and declare a person who has taken a different or opposing view to their faith, and is obstinate in that differing view to be declared excommunicated to prevent the spread of the heresy and the unraveling of the faith. As a Catholic I do not believe Mormon doctrine, I would however expect a Mormon to not only believe it but to defend it as I would defend my Catholic belief. So all churches should be able to defend their core beliefs and separate those who threaten those beliefs. Anyone who differs with the core beliefs of any religion should be happy to be separated from that religion and go their own way because the two are by core belief already separated. This is not to say this should be done quickly, but only after clear discussion and a mutual understanding of opposing positions and an exhausted attempt at reconciliation.