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C14 on burnt material would be close to useless. One thing fire always does is to exchange carbon with the (in this case more recent) surroundings.
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Pieman333272
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Interesting. The source I used may have meant the non-burned areas under the Patches, but I probably misinterpreted it as the burnt areas. I may have been way off and it was really saying there was no hope too, but I;m not sure. I don’t know about Carbon Dating except some very basic stuff from this project, I’m very sorry if I was wrong.
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Do not be sorry for being wrong. Be glad you asked and sought questions to this.Interesting. The source I used may have meant the non-burned areas under the Patches, but I probably misinterpreted it as the burnt areas. I may have been way off and it was really saying there was no hope too, but I;m not sure. I don’t know about Carbon Dating except some very basic stuff from this project, I’m very sorry if I was wrong.
If and when we all can see and agree that we are just trying to make sense of all this together, then maybe we won’t be wasting so much time arguing- we will be doing.
Actively making a step in the direction of understanding things we can understand better.
Speculation is fine, and helps many people and I have no problem with that.
I have problems with people telling me to accept things that can not pass the sniff test.
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StrawberryJam
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Excellent “news”!Woah! Check this out! Theres hope with a new way of Carbon Dating, if its proven safe, so it may be a few decades! I read it after a few google searches out of boredom here!
I give up.
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Pieman333272
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Hey, hey, hey! I found it interesting! Sue me. There is some very interesting recent research on it though, if you want to look it up. I made mentions w/o links earlier.
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StrawberryJam
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Don’t get me wrong, I would find it interesting if I had the same framework to base things on.
And, yes- even from my perspective it is certainly interesting. Just not in the same way of course.
I do appreciate your attempts here Pieman, and if it is any consolation I do revere Mary in my heart. Not sure why. But, I do. And have no basis to do so.
That could be why I am still agnostic.
She is very compelling.
Say, if we could see her fingerprints or tear stains on it… well… then I would be much more interested…
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Windfish
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Warms my heart.
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GEddie
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How would you identify either?
I don’t know that tears can be ID’d at all; but we definitely don’t have her fingerprints on file.
Should they dust the Tilma of Guadalupe for prints as well???
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StrawberryJam
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You are correct in that, we can not identify either.How would you identify either?
I don’t know that tears can be ID’d at all; but we definitely don’t have her fingerprints on file.
Should they dust the Tilma of Guadalupe for prints as well???
God Bless and ICXC NIKA
Guadalupe is a fraud from the beggining IMHO. Based on failure to pass the sniff test.
Best to you also,
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Pieman333272
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Not wanting to look like a jerk on this, but it’s his. The image is of Jesus post-crucifixion, not Mary. I just felt I should either correct your post or clarify your position. (Better to be fixed than to be misleading, I believe)
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True, true. I did not mean to confuse anyone. Mary is not on topic here, so I should have not even brought her into this.Not wanting to look like a jerk on this, but it’s his. The image is of Jesus post-crucifixion, not Mary. I just felt I should either correct your post or clarify your position. (Better to be fixed than to be misleading, I believe)
I did get something in my email today about yet another claimed miracle regarding the shroud. Apparently now there is the covering over the shroud that is found at long last, and it is all in a book. Can’t remember the name of the journalist who decided to write about it now, but it did make me think of this thread when I got it. Somehow I ended up on some kind of Catholic marketing group that sends me all sorts of things like that.
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