Slain abortion doctor mourned as 'martyr'

[Caveman]

3 paragraphs from The Washington Times;

Slain abortion doctor mourned as 'martyr’

Liberal religious groups joined secular pro-choice organizations Monday to mourn as a martyr one of the country’s most famous providers of late-term abortions.

St. Paul’s Episcopal Cathedral in Boston held an evening memorial service where the Very Rev. Katherine Ragsdale, president of Episcopal Divinity School in nearby Cambridge, was one of several scheduled speakers. “This is about the loss of a man who was a saint and a martyr,” she said in an interview before the service. “He was a prayerful man who put his life at risk to protect others and died for it. People are in shock, outrage and mourning. They need a place to go.”

Reconstructionist Rabbi Arthur Waskow of the Philadelphia-based Shalom Center said Dr. Tiller “joins the list of martyrs for ethical decency and human rights, killed for healing with compassion.” The rabbi said Dr. Tiller was “a religious martyr in the fullest classical sense, killed in his own church as he arrived to worship, killed for acting in accord with his religious commitments and his moral and ethical choices.”

 

[DawnInTexas]

And? There you have it.

A ‘martyr’ of this world. The Secular world.
Topsy-Turvy, Good is Evil, Evil is Good, Right is Wrong, Wrong is Right…

Father John Corapi, SOLT’s latest message comes to mind (below).
Satan’s time is short. He is reaping as much havoc, as possible:

**Flash point: The point at which something is ready to blow up. That has been my perception of Western society in general for some time now. Perhaps, a train wreck waiting to happen would be another way to put it. All evil can claim its ultimate origin in moral evil. Those that deny objective standards of morality merely facilitate the demise of their society. When it happens they will be nowhere to be found.

That apparently large numbers of people seem to be intellectually and morally numb is not news, but the near light-speed evaporation of our way of life is. Actions have consequences, and sometimes the consequences can?t be seen this side of eternity. That does not mean they aren?t real. You will be seeing some of the consequences very soon, however, not the worst, but the most immediate.

Personal liberty has already begun to be compromised. Various governments, including the United States, now own car companies like General Motors and Chrysler, mega insurance companies, soon perhaps health care and energy. Injustice is beginning to be seen from the smallest of individuals to the largest of corporations. The only problem with that is that governments have never been able to operate anything profitably, efficiently, or equitably. The little guy and the large corporation will all be equal opportunity recipients of heavy-handed injustice very soon.

The government is about to dictate what car you can drive, how you insure it, what your bank can pay you or not, what kind of heating you have in your home, if you can have air conditioning or not. And, oh, if you eat a Twinkie your health insurance premium is going up. If you get sick, perhaps the Twinkie did it, and you aren?t covered.

You might say that the government needs to control things to keep us safe, etc. That might work if the people in government could be trusted. They can?t, but we elected them. We get what we deserve, and many chickens are about to come home to roost.
One of the inherent difficulties with a democratic republic is that it is only as good as the people in it. When a people lose their moral equilibrium, live in sin, and suffer the consequent loss of wisdom, then that nation?s days are numbered.

Why? How have we come to this? It can be traced to the most compelling moral issue of our times, and we can?t escape from it, no matter how uncomfortable it is?abortion and other life issues. No matter what other rosy picture is painted by those that would have you believe all is well, God is not a disinterested spectator. Regardless of the high sounding rhetoric of the day, seeming progress in this or that area, it is an illusion. Nothing will ultimately go well for the United States or any other country until the injustice of all injustices is remedied. Until every human being is respected and reverenced, from the moment of conception to the last moment of natural life, no one will be safe and secure. Whether it is the helpless infant in the womb or the misguided and/or evil abortionist on the wrong end of a bullet, all deserve the safety and security of the law. Only God can in justice and wisdom decide when life begins and when life ends. When we attempt to usurp God?s job description we always come up short.

God Bless You,

Fr. John Corapi**

 

[DawnInTexas]

One more thing…

God will not be mocked.

Pray! Like your life depends on it!
Because it does!
-Father John Corapi, SOLT

 

[Pius_IX]

St. Paul’s Episcopal Cathedral in Boston held an evening memorial service where the Very Rev. Katherine Ragsdale, president of Episcopal Divinity School in nearby Cambridge, was one of several scheduled speakers. “This is about the loss of a man** who was a saint and a martyr**,” she said in an interview before the service. “He was a prayerful man who** put his life at risk to protect others and died for it**. People are in shock, outrage and mourning. They need a place to go.”

Absolutely unreal. It’s no wonder the Episcopal church is being abandoned in droves every year.

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

A saint and a martyr?

Are they out of thier minds?

May God have mercy on us all.

 

[Veridical16]

Yes they are wicked.
I don’t understand it!

Isaiah 5 seems apt

But the LORD of hosts shall be exalted by his judgment, and God the Holy shall be shown holy by his justice.

18
Woe to those who tug at guilt with cords of perversity, and at sin as if with cart ropes!
19
To those who say, “Let him make haste and speed his work, that we may see it; On with the plan of the Holy One of Israel! let it come to pass, that we may know it!”
20
Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil, who change darkness into light, and light into darkness, who change bitter into sweet, and sweet into bitter!
21
Woe to those who are wise in their own sight, and prudent in their own esteem!
22
Woe to the champions at drinking wine, the valiant at mixing strong drink!
23
To those who acquit the guilty for bribes, and deprive the just man of his rights!
24

and II Corinthians 2

But thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumph in Christ and manifests through us the odor of the knowledge of him in every place.15
For we are the aroma of Christ for God among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing,16
to the latter an odor of death that leads to death, to the former an odor of life that leads to life. Who is qualified for this?
17
For we are not like the many who trade on the word of God; but as out of sincerity, indeed as from God and in the presence of God, we speak in Christ.

No wonder why they don’t like Pro-LIfe people, the Aroma of Christ smells bitter to them, it reminds them of their judgment…

 

[Dale_M]

Fr. Corapi:

The government is about to dictate what car you can drive, how you insure it, what your bank can pay you or not, what kind of heating you have in your home, if you can have air conditioning or not.

:ehh:

 

[RobbyS]

And? There you have it.

A ‘martyr’ of this world. The Secular world.
Topsy-Turvy, Good is Evil, Evil is Good, Right is Wrong, Wrong is Right…

Father John Corapi, SOLT’s latest message comes to mind (below).
Satan’s time is short. He is reaping as much havoc, as possible:

**Flash point: The point at which something is ready to blow up. That has been my perception of Western society in general for some time now. Perhaps, a train wreck waiting to happen would be another way to put it. All evil can claim its ultimate origin in moral evil. Those that deny objective standards of morality merely facilitate the demise of their society. When it happens they will be nowhere to be found.

That apparently large numbers of people seem to be intellectually and morally numb is not news, but the near light-speed evaporation of our way of life is. Actions have consequences, and sometimes the consequences can?t be seen this side of eternity. That does not mean they aren?t real. You will be seeing some of the consequences very soon, however, not the worst, but the most immediate.

Personal liberty has already begun to be compromised. Various governments, including the United States, now own car companies like General Motors and Chrysler, mega insurance companies, soon perhaps health care and energy. Injustice is beginning to be seen from the smallest of individuals to the largest of corporations. The only problem with that is that governments have never been able to operate anything profitably, efficiently, or equitably. The little guy and the large corporation will all be equal opportunity recipients of heavy-handed injustice very soon.

The government is about to dictate what car you can drive, how you insure it, what your bank can pay you or not, what kind of heating you have in your home, if you can have air conditioning or not. And, oh, if you eat a Twinkie your health insurance premium is going up. If you get sick, perhaps the Twinkie did it, and you aren?t covered.

You might say that the government needs to control things to keep us safe, etc. That might work if the people in government could be trusted. They can?t, but we elected them. We get what we deserve, and many chickens are about to come home to roost.
One of the inherent difficulties with a democratic republic is that it is only as good as the people in it. When a people lose their moral equilibrium, live in sin, and suffer the consequent loss of wisdom, then that nation?s days are numbered.

Why? How have we come to this? It can be traced to the most compelling moral issue of our times, and we can?t escape from it, no matter how uncomfortable it is?abortion and other life issues. No matter what other rosy picture is painted by those that would have you believe all is well, God is not a disinterested spectator. Regardless of the high sounding rhetoric of the day, seeming progress in this or that area, it is an illusion. Nothing will ultimately go well for the United States or any other country until the injustice of all injustices is remedied. Until every human being is respected and reverenced, from the moment of conception to the last moment of natural life, no one will be safe and secure. Whether it is the helpless infant in the womb or the misguided and/or evil abortionist on the wrong end of a bullet, all deserve the safety and security of the law. Only God can in justice and wisdom decide when life begins and when life ends. When we attempt to usurp God?s job description we always come up short.

God Bless You,

Fr. John Corapi**

As they say, we make our own hells. God doesn’t push us into the abyss: he holds out His hand to keep us from falling. We choose like Lucifer to slap it away and jump into the bottomless pit.

 

[rjs1]

When a person can say that a man who cut almost born babies into pieces, causing them a painful death, is a “saint and martyr”; then that person and the denomination of which they are a priestess, is on a quick path to Hell.

 

[tm30]

One more thing…

God will not be mocked.

Pray! Like your life depends on it!
Because it does!
-Father John Corapi, SOLT

Great letter from Fr. Corapi.

As I’ve stated on other threads, the difference between the evil of today versus the evil of the of past, is that, in the past, the most profound evils could be linked to the dictatorial will of the garden variety tyrant (Stalin, Hitler, Pol Pot, Herod, Idi Amin, Genghis Khan, etc.) Today, the most profound evils are democratically elected by the mob. Worse, they are things no longer indoctrinated along the path of government-to-citizen, but on the path of parent-to-child and peer-to-peer.

Someday, the mob will democratically outlaw the Catholic faith. And after that, the mob will outlaw Catholics, period. It will not come at the coaxing of a tyrant, but the loving guidance of parents and friends.

 

[7_Sorrows]

and that is why i am glad that i left the Epsicopal church. it is sad to see what this once great church has come to stand for and the ideas they are promoting. i grew up in the episcopal church and when i was a child, it was the most beautiful church to me. i left the church at 18 in 1970 as most young adults do and when i returned even 8 years later i noticed changes and left again and by the time i returned again in the late 1990’s, i couldn’t believe what i was hearing. very, very sad.

i had read what this female priest had said before about abortionists and how they are sacred and perform holy work.

this boggles the mind how you could call an abortionist a saint and martyr.

this is so frightening when people representing religious groups use words like this.

in this day and age, when we have the medical knowledge about the fetus and its development, how can people still condone abortion?

a very sad statement on our society.