Slipping in Lent

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How grave a sin is it if you slip with your Lenten resolutions?
Is this something you should go to confession for before mass?

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it is not any kind of sin, it is not even a sin if you forget the prescribed minimal days of fast and abstinence, it only becomes a sin if you deliberately avoid doing what is prescribed, and resist the notion of doing any kind of penance, prayer and good works for malicious reasons, i.e., convinced you don’t need them because you are already holy.
 
'k, thanks.🙂

Which of course doesn’t mean we should not try to do better in the future, right!!!😉

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Right, as long as one is doing lentan penance for the right reasons.

I always struggle with giving up fast food, since I need to lose weight anyway, and it’s a convenient “excuse” to go on a fast-food-free diet. But since I really enjoy the food…I mean, let’s face it…grease tastes better than fiber…it is something significant to give up.

Now I have to discipline myself to be charitable with the money that I would have spent on the fast food…😃
 
I am trying to give up semi-unconscious nibbling 😉 But it is so easy to come up with excuses why something is allowed anyway - and then very fast, a bite is taken…

Kathrin

p.s. But I am also trying this Lent very hard to “give up” being so overly obsessive and scrupulous and listen to God more!!! Or let’s put it like this: I want to try and give up acting out of anxiety, and act out of love!!!
 
When are we gonna learn, the flesh cannot please God?
Slowly and thoughtfully read the 7th chapter of the book of Romans. Its in the New Testament.
We can fast and pray to show our sincere desire to please God. We could fast to death but it would not save our soul. Jesus already saved those who trust in Him alone and not their works.
Read the Scriptures and believe on His Name.😉
 
I wish you could all know the situation I am in. I cannot taste and smell due to a head injury in January 2007. Giving up anything foodwise right now is not an issue. I, instead, concentrate on what I can give, rather than give up. Believe me, it is harder.

Just for a change try to give rather than give up. It will make you weak yet it will make you strong before Lent is over.

I vow to love and forgive and take care of those who do not have as much as I have.

That is more than I have ever done. Pray that I can continue that.

Peace to all of you,
sherri:gopray: :signofcross: :signofcross:
 
When are we gonna learn, the flesh cannot please God?
Slowly and thoughtfully read the 7th chapter of the book of Romans. Its in the New Testament.
We can fast and pray to show our sincere desire to please God. We could fast to death but it would not save our soul. Jesus already saved those who trust in Him alone and not their works.
Read the Scriptures and believe on His Name.😉
I assume you’re not Catholic 😉 Not to get into a lengthy discussion about why we as Catholics do fasts and penance but it’s because we are all sinners and to anyone who thinks they are above penance and abstinence , I say shame on you , but the Lords forgives you I’m sure because you know not what you say. 😉 And didn’t St. Paul also say , “to work out your salvation with fear and trembling” , and didn’t he also say this the day before he was Martyred? Also,and most importantly, didn’t Jesus say to “pick up your cross daily”? No, there’s nothing wrong with offering penance if it will get you closer to God! We offer prayers and more of our daily time to God and charity to others in order to accept the Reconciliation of His Death on the Cross for us and not just during Lent. Lent is the deeper reflection of the sacrifices our Lord gave for us. Be like Christ , and give up everything and then you will learn the value of true sacrifice! :knight1:
 
When are we gonna learn that the flesh cannot please God?

I agree. I wonder when it will register that Catholics are not trying to please God thru the flesh. Instead, we seek to please God thru our souls. There is only one way that we can please God, and that is to submit our wills to His. When we seek to be more like the Creator and His Son, our model, then we begin to ascend from the darkness of sin that weighs on us.

Satan would love us to not sacrifice, as in imitation of Christ. When we deny our flesh (let me reemphasize, when we DENY our flesh), we can live in our souls away from the strains of temptation. Sacrifice during Lent is an exercise that should not be just for Lent, but rather it should be practiced at all times of the year. Sacrificing helps us to break the flesh’s sway over our will. Each of us is tempted by sin. Some of us are tempted by certain kinds of sin, and others of us are tempted more by other kinds. But they all come back to the flesh. We are tempted thru the flesh. Sin is the weakness of the flesh. If we were not bound by our bodies, we could not help but to seek out God’s Light. We would naturally fly, unrestrained, to Heaven.

Now, you said some very true comments. “We could fast to death but it would not save our soul.” Yes, so true. Christ’s Blood has saved the world of those who will accept Him and follow Him. He invites us in the scriptures to follow Him. That is something that cannot be overlook or passed by. We must follow Him if we are truly His disciples. And follow we aim to do, all the way to the Cross. We will follow in the footsteps where He leads us when the path is green and easy. And we will follow Him when people persecute us and kill us. During Lent, we will also follow Him into the desert. We will prepare our souls for His Sacrifice. We could never hope to even get close to His Sacrifice; it was the ultimate. But we can still suffer for Him, in His Name, and at the expense of the flesh that causes our downfall. We remind ourselves of the attraction of sin through our sacrifice, thereby learning about it and from it. We emerge from our deserts stronger and more aware than before of sin in our lives and the temptation that begins innocently enough, outside of the realm of sin, but quickly turns to the chains that bind us and drag us.

For example, I gave up sweets. I’m not doing it to loose weight. I’m not doing it to be healthy. I chose it because it was something difficult for me to sacrifice for Lent. There have been many times with friends or coworkers that I’ve been in surrounded by sweets. Now, eating a sweet here and there is nothing close to a sin. But the flesh craves more because the sensation is pleasurable. If I do not exercise restraint, I become dragged down by gluttony (a deadly sin). If I don’t put the restraints on early enough, I begin to feel that I’ve lost control of the animal. It seems to drag my hand. It seems as though I no longer have the will to give it up. In truth, I have surrendered my will to the sin, allowing it to control me. This lack of control can then invite other sins.
However, if I use this mediation and reflective period of Lent to focus my sacrifice, I can begin to see how much control I can have. Now, certainly God strengthens me. I, like all humans, am a creature of habit. Sin is the worst habit. So I do need help to break free and create new habits for God. I must subjugate my flesh and bring it under the will of my soul, instead of the other way around.

Lenten sacrifice is not easy. It sound not be thought of as some casual thing. It’s no New Year’s resolution. It’s sacrifice. It’s hard, so I understand people who do not want to participate. And I understand how easily Satan can form in our minds the excuses not to sacrifice. He may even cut and paste the Bible until he makes it easy to excuse oneself from this mediation. It is a choice. That is what God gave us, a choice. And when we choose Him, THAT makes Him happy. When we choose to eliminate or reduce sin in our lives, that means we are placing God as a priority in our lives over temptation and sin…and that makes Him happy. When we can sacrifice our bodies to lift our souls to Him unrestrained, all that hard work does make Him happy. My Lenten wish for you and all peoples under Christ’s victorious banner is to seek out discipline of the flesh and to follow Christ wherever He leads; down easy roads, and up even to Calvary; that He may help us shed the sin in our lives and be able to walk confidently thru temptation.
 
Hi MawmawRae. I’m curious which Bible translation you use, because I have read Romans 7 through slowly using several translations and can’t find the quote you used. I have used the New American Bible, NRSV, RSV, NIV, and King James translations. Romans 7 is a discourse concerning the law and the new covanant, Paul opens with an analogy of a woman and the relationship with the man she is living with before her first husband dies, and after. It then compares this to our relationship with the old covenant law now that Christ has died and established a new covenant. I don’t see the quote regarding fasting and penance that you quote anywhere in there. I’m wondering if its the translation you used translates something differently than the ones I referenced or perhaps you have cited the wrong chapter?

Thanks and God bless…
When are we gonna learn, the flesh cannot please God?
Slowly and thoughtfully read the 7th chapter of the book of Romans. Its in the New Testament.
We can fast and pray to show our sincere desire to please God. We could fast to death but it would not save our soul. Jesus already saved those who trust in Him alone and not their works.
Read the Scriptures and believe on His Name.😉
 
Our Lenten journey will have difficult areas, but we need to focus on being more Christlike and, as someone in this “thread” already indicated, we should not be scrupulous to the point of beating ourselves up. When we honestly make an attempt to follow our Lenten resolutions and stumble, we need to forgive ourselves and get up and try again.

I was introduced in a Bible study class to the Lenten Little Black Book. I have no other connection to this publication than just a Catholic follower of Christ working on spiritually enriching my Lent 2008. The Little Black Book is published by the Diocese of Saginaw (I am in Florida – so it is not my diocese, but is full of wonderful tradition, history and spiritual guidance.) Their website is www.saginaw.org – I have not been on it, but my neighbor ordered some and also gave me as an early Easter gift the Little White Book for Easter. If you have a chance, check it out. Everyone I know who has one is finding it very helpful. It has a 6 minute reflection, so it is easy and quick. Lent 08 is about The Passion according to John.

Also, we have a Parish Mission which ends tonight (4th day) and The Passion of Christ was explained to us as The LOVE of Christ – not just The Passion leading up to His crucifixion. As People of the Cross, we are called to serve God and one another. Concentrate on serving others and you WILL be serving God.

Blessings of Our Lord To Each of You.
 
It’s true that we can’t please God with our flesh.

So to add or to help out, I will like to say one controversial statement or sentence to say that the flesh, I mean, our flesh is the worst enemy to our soul or spirit to say. In this light, I will urge everyone that thinks christ to try to identify the spirit from flesh so that he don’t go enjoy the whole world and looses his soul.(you must step down on one to gain another).What a game of choice!
Anybody who is critical enough to know that the flesh is never a lasting thing should also be able to know that the pleasure we derive to our flesh does not last too.
Yes, the Bible says that the christ has worked out our salvation, there is no doubt about that but it’s not the way we take it because, me, I have not forgotten that He said, he who try to save his life will lost it but he who looses his life for my sake will find it.
Anyway, His ways are diversify but the most essential thing is to remain submissive to his will.

Thank you and remain blessed in the name of our lord Jesus christ.
 
I cannot say it better than nihonkurisu did in the number 10 reply!
WOW, I am going to copy and paste that reply to my eldest son. It articulates our beliefs so well.

However in reading through the thread, I don’t see anyone pointing to the example of Jesus? Why did Jesus fast if it was useless to our salvation? He certainly didn’t need it!
The answer is obvious.

Also, some comments seemed to equate fasting with dieting? There is a big difference.
Fasting is one small meal a day. Eat anything you want, but limit the portion, deny yourself.
Dieting watches what you eat so to maximize your weight loss without endangering your health. You may eat one small meal a day, but it must be low calorie, or carb, or whatever diet you are following. See the difference?

I have always had a hard time keeping my Lenten promises. If I don’t, I feel like I haven’t raised the bar far enough. Failures breed perseverance and allow me to start over again and again. Much like the three falls of Christ on the way to the cross? He kept getting up and so do I.
Mother Teresa said it so well, “God does not call us to succeed. He calls us to be faithful”

Once again, nicely done.
 
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