Smoking is intrinsically disorderd

[donmaximuso27]

I think each case must be observed individually. If an individual smokes so many packs that they begin to develop lung problems, such as cancer or emphysema, or mouth cancer, etc., or if they begin to hurt others around them, such as their spouse or children, and still continue to smoke, I think that constitutes as a grave matter. However, cigarettes are a modern invention, that give no benefits whatsoever, whether it be taste, social tradition, or anything else. On the other hand, traditional forms of smoking, that have existed for thousands of years, such as pipe smoking and cigar smoking, are smokes mainly for taste. The majority of pipe and cigar smokers do not inhale, nor does it commonly become an addiction. I think addiction is the deciding factor. Pipe and cigar smoking again offers great taste, as well as an ancient, social tradition. The Catechism state: 2290 “The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine. Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.” So it seems that the level of indulgence, as with food and drink, is the key factor to determining whether or not smoking is a sin.

 

[Joe_5859]

thank you for this! I am confused as to why the media recently made it sound like pedophilia was something new being added by the Pope?

Because the media seldom correctly represents Catholic teaching. The whole “new 7 deadly sins” was just media -hype, not new teaching (click here for more info on that).

 

[whatevergirl]

I think each case must be observed individually. If an individual smokes so many packs that they begin to develop lung problems, such as cancer or emphysema, or mouth cancer, etc., or if they begin to hurt others around them, such as their spouse or children, and still continue to smoke, I think that constitutes as a grave matter. However, cigarettes are a modern invention, that give no benefits whatsoever, whether it be taste, social tradition, or anything else. On the other hand, traditional forms of smoking, that have existed for thousands of years, such as pipe smoking and cigar smoking, are smokes mainly for taste. The majority of pipe and cigar smokers do not inhale, nor does it commonly become an addiction. I think addiction is the deciding factor. Pipe and cigar smoking again offers great taste, as well as an ancient, social tradition. The Catechism state: 2290 “The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess: the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine. Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.” So it seems that the level of indulgence, as with food and drink, is the key factor to determining whether or not smoking is a sin.

Agreed, but one can’t get addicted to something harmful, if one doesn’t begin. Nicotine is pretty addictive from what I’ve heard, especially nowadays, and I just read an article in my local paper this morning, that nicotine thwarts the efforts of most chemo treatments…when fighting cancer cells, the nicotine present, even from the patch, can thwart chemo treatments.

I’m sorry, smoking is baaaaad. I would encourage anyone and everyone who is addicted…to please stop…and if you have never tried–don’t begin. :nope:

 

[whatevergirl]

Because the media seldom correctly represents Catholic teaching. The whole “new 7 deadly sins” was just media -hype, not new teaching (click here for more info on that).

Okay, I see.

 

[donmaximuso27]

Agreed, but one can’t get addicted to something harmful, if one doesn’t begin. Nicotine is pretty addictive from what I’ve heard, especially nowadays, and I just read an article in my local paper this morning, that nicotine thwarts the efforts of most chemo treatments…when fighting cancer cells, the nicotine present, even from the patch, can thwart chemo treatments.

I’m sorry, smoking is baaaaad. I would encourage anyone and everyone who is addicted…to please stop…and if you have never tried–don’t begin. :nope:

I agree, smoking is bad. While one has no reason to start smoking cigarettes, this isn’t the case for pipes and cigars. Most that smoke pipes and cigars do not do so just to get addicted, they do so because of the taste and social tradition. These people usually do not get addicted to pipes and cigars, nor are they as harmful. The tobacco used is completely natural and is not factory made; therefore, they do not contain the thousands of harmful chemicals evident in cigarettes. While cigarette smokers have no good reason to start smoking in the first place, pipes and cigars are clearly another matter.

 

[whatevergirl]

I agree, smoking is bad. While one has no reason to start smoking cigarettes, this isn’t the case for pipes and cigars. Most that smoke pipes and cigars do not do so just to get addicted, they do so because of the taste and social tradition. These people usually do not get addicted to pipes and cigars, nor are they as harmful. The tobacco used is completely natural and is not factory made; therefore, they do not contain the thousands of harmful chemicals evident in cigarettes. While cigarette smokers have no good reason to start smoking in the first place, pipes and cigars are clearly another matter.

Oddly enough, I enjoy the smell of cigars and pipes. I also agree about the social traditions of it.

Cigarette smoking on the other hand…is ugh…should I keep going on and on? hahaha

 

[donmaximuso27]

Oddly enough, I enjoy the smell of cigars and pipes. I also agree about the social traditions of it.

Cigarette smoking on the other hand…is ugh…should I keep going on and on? hahaha

No I completely agree. I am 100% against cigarette smoking. I just wanted to distinguish between the different types of smoking and benefits/negatives of each.