So far, what Anglican groups are now in full communion under the provision of Anglicanorum Coetibus?

[Brian777]

Just wondering if anyone could provide me with a succinct list of the anglican churches that are now in communion with Rome officially, and accepted the ordinariate system so far?

I know for certian that the TAC in England, and here in the US(ACA) have in fact given full consent and come over…i believe that the TAC in Australia with Archbishop Hepworth have also voted yea on the issue as well.

aslo I move for a new “Ordianariate” Forum ( named somehting more nice then just that but you catch my drift…) so that we can have a set place to discuss thee topics instead of having them scattered throughout the entirety of the fora.

God bless our Anglican brothers!

 

[gallowglass]

As far as I understand things, no Anglican group in the UK has “come over” under this proposed arrangement although there have been several overtures, votes and some support. Anglican friends here tell me that it is rarely mentioned in their own parishes and I think it is true that interest is keener in London and the Home Counties.

 

[IowaJay]

Just wondering if anyone could provide me with a succinct list of the anglican churches that are now in communion with Rome officially, and accepted the ordinariate system so far?

Those are two separate questions.

One question relates to acceptance of the proposal. Several Anglican groups have accepted the ordinariate proposal. As you note, some Traditional Anglican Communion groups have already done so. The touchier subject is which Anglican groups/bishops who are still in communion with Canterbury will communicate their acceptance of the proposal. Apparently there was a private meeting between the Pope and 3 CofE Bishops this past weekend.

The second question relates to official full communion. The ordinariates have not been created, ordinaries have not been appointed, and ordinations of Anglican priests to the Catholic priesthood, etc. have not occurred yet, so “official” communion with Rome has not happened yet. My guess is there will be all kinds of publicity that will occur when the first ordinariates are set up and ordinations begin.

A great website for up-to-the-minute developments in this area is:

theanglocatholic.com/

 

[MarkBrown]

Just wondering if anyone could provide me with a succinct list of the anglican churches that are now in communion with Rome officially, and accepted the ordinariate system so far?

I know for certian that the TAC in England, and here in the US(ACA) have in fact given full consent and come over…i believe that the TAC in Australia with Archbishop Hepworth have also voted yea on the issue as well.

aslo I move for a new “Ordianariate” Forum ( named somehting more nice then just that but you catch my drift…) so that we can have a set place to discuss thee topics instead of having them scattered throughout the entirety of the fora.

God bless our Anglican brothers!

Brian,

As of right now, there are no Anglican groups in communion with Rome. Dioceses and parishes in the States, Canada, Australia and England have asked for an Ordinariate to be establilshed. They have presented formal request and asked for the governing councils to be erected. Though no names have been given publically, I am sure they have been privately to the CDF.

The Anglicans are waiting on Rome to respond. Look for Anglican Archbishops and Bishops being called to Rome as an indication on the next step of the process.

The CoE Bishops who are rumored to have been in Rome recently may be part of the process. I know Bishop Broadhurst was in the States in March 2010 for discussions with the Anglican Archbishops and Bishops who asked for the ordinariate to be established. He also was able to contact and speak with leaders of the Anglican Use parishes.

Understand local Catholic Diocese Bishops are out of the loop on this process, per the CDF. Watch websites such as www.theanglocatholic.com , Virtue on line, Stand Firm and Titus 1:9. The first sight is in favor of the process and is run by the ACA Eastern Diocese under Bishop Campese. The last three are Anglican site, though not in favor have been able to report the process somewhat factually. Though it does get shrill there with some of the continuers and TEC people.

Keep praying for the Holy Father and all in the process. Those who are crossing are getting it from both the Anglicans and those Catholics who fear seeing orthodox Anglicans coming into the Church.

Fr. Mark

Something that is not on Anglican and Catholic radar screens is the interest of Anglicans outside the TAC on the Ordinariate. AU priests and TAC Bishops are getting many calls from priests and laity ranging from ACNA, TEC and the Continuing Church Groups. All are interested in the process. We are all waiting on Rome at the moment.

 

[manualman]

These things move at church speed. Glaciers are speedy in comparison. Sometimes that’s infuriating, but more often than not its also what prevents major theological blunders too.

 

[Brian777]

thank you all for your responses, thats very informing.

I continue to pray for all in the AC who seek full communion.

God bless!

 

[IowaJay]

As I’m typing this, the “Journey Home” episode this week is devoted to Anglicanorum Coetibus - lots of interesting information being shared. I think they have the video from each week’s show on the EWTN website for at least a week after the show, and the audio is on there permanently.

 

[puzzleannie]

As I’m typing this, the “Journey Home” episode this week is devoted to Anglicanorum Coetibus - lots of interesting information being shared. I think they have the video from each week’s show on the EWTN website for at least a week after the show, and the audio is on there permanently.

I am also listening to this show, and listening to the priest’s conversion story, felt a little stab of jealousy that while we cradle Catholics of my generation have had to live through the years of, well you know, everything we complain about in the traditional forum, from music on down, they Anglican use parishes already established as well as the new churches that will be admitted, “get” to keep traditional form of worship. My sister has recently come back to the Church, but will keep her post in a choir in an Anglicam parish that is inches away from coming into full communion. The music is one of the reasons (not a good one, but hers anyhow) she stayed away so long, sadly, but she has great reasons for coming home.

 

[Ignatius]

Just wondering if anyone could provide me with a succinct list of the anglican churches that are now in communion with Rome officially, and accepted the ordinariate system so far?

I know for certian that the TAC in England, and here in the US(ACA) have in fact given full consent and come over…i believe that the TAC in Australia with Archbishop Hepworth have also voted yea on the issue as well.

aslo I move for a new “Ordianariate” Forum ( named somehting more nice then just that but you catch my drift…) so that we can have a set place to discuss thee topics instead of having them scattered throughout the entirety of the fora.

God bless our Anglican brothers!

Anglicanorum Coetibus was issued as a response to requests from the Traditional Anglican Communion and others Anglican groups. The leadership and laity of those groups had already decided for reunion prior to their requests and as soon as the provisions and protocols are ironed out, they will do so. However, as far as I know, not all of the provisions and protocals have been completed yet, and, as IowaJay said, the ordinariates have not been created, ordinaries have not been appointed, and ordinations of have not occurred yet therefore none can yet do so.

 

[gurneyhalleck1]

Marcus Grodi’s thrill a minute exchanges keep me on the edge of my seat! His guests are always real barn-burners!

As I’m typing this, the “Journey Home” episode this week is devoted to Anglicanorum Coetibus - lots of interesting information being shared. I think they have the video from each week’s show on the EWTN website for at least a week after the show, and the audio is on there permanently.

 

[TriuneUnity]

Marcus Grodi’s thrill a minute exchanges keep me on the edge of my seat! His guests are always real barn-burners!

LOL.

Yep…and when there’s a commercial break in the show, I take quick glimpses to watch the paint in my house dry, you know, just to make sure I keep the excitement level up. LOL

 

[TriuneUnity]

Marcus Grodi’s thrill a minute exchanges keep me on the edge of my seat! His guests are always real barn-burners!

Interestingly, thinking back to when I would watch that show, many moons ago… It always started the same way.

Marcus: So, as a faithful member of a Baptist church, what began to lead you to the Catholic faith?

Guest: Well, it started when I began to doubt sola scriptura

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Marcus: So, as a faithful member of a Lutheran church, what began to lead you to the Catholic faith?

Guest: Well, it started when I began to doubt sola scriptura

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Marcus: So, as a faithful member of an Anglican church, what began to lead you to the Catholic faith?

Guest: Well, it started when I began to doubt sola scriptura

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Marcus: So, as a faithful member of the Klingon High Command, what began to lead you to the Catholic faith?

Guest: ‘oH ghorgh jIH taghta’ sola scriptura Daq

 

[Bruce_in_Iloilo]

Marcus: So, as a faithful member of an Anglican church, what began to lead you to the Catholic faith?

Guest: Well, it started when I began to doubt sola scriptura

The general point is correct – the decision to join the Catholic Church often comes down to the issue of authority. It did for me. How does one decide what it means to be a Christian? How does one decide issues like what’s in the Bible, what’s the true nature of Jesus, who is a priest, what is a human being, etc.?

That said, let me point out that Anglicans do not believe in sola scriptura. Anglicans would traditionally talk about three legs of the stool – tradition, right reason and scripture. The exact weighting of these three depends, or determines, which shade of Anglican you might be – Low, Mid or High; Evangelical to Anglo-Catholic. If you are more Catholic oriented, you would see what you might think of as proper Christianity divided into three – Orthodox, Catholic, and Anglican. So, the issue for the Anglo-Catholics is not whether “the Church” has authority, by which they mean tradition or the magisterium, but rather whether the Pope has authority.

The current debates within the various Anglican structures revolve around that issue of authority. Can the church change or define tradition and ordain women or gays, perform gay marriages, advocate for abortion, re-write the Prayer Book, translate the Bible, etc.? What about if the majority of the Anglican bishops are opposed, such as is the case for ordaining gays in a committed relationship as bishops? The Episcopal Church says it’s OK but other parts of the Anglican Communion says it is not. Can the Church by a vote at a convention change or at least adjust thousands of years of tradition as we understand it?

 

[Bruce_in_Iloilo]

A great website for up-to-the-minute developments in this area is:

theanglocatholic.com/

If you are interested in more information, there is also the upcoming annual Anglican Use Conference, this year in Newark from June 10 to 12. I attended a few years back and it was a wonderful, spiritual event, attended by Anglicans and Catholics of all stripes. The keynote speaker that year was Cardinal Dulles. This year it will undoubtedly be populated by the future leaders of any American Ordinariate, including a few possible Ordinaries, as well as potential leaders of other countries’s ordinaries. Here’s the website:

anglicanuseconference.com/

I also endorse the Anglo Catholic blog and Forum. It’s a great website moderated by a leader in the TAC here in America and co-writen by a growing list of Catholic- and Ordinariate-leaning Anglican leaders from within and without the Catholic Church, including some of the pioneers of Anglican Use and the Pastoral Provision. You have seen some of them on EWTN.

 

[MarkBrown]

If you are interested in more information, there is also the upcoming annual Anglican Use Conference, this year in Newark from June 10 to 12. I attended a few years back and it was a wonderful, spiritual event, attended by Anglicans and Catholics of all stripes. The keynote speaker that year was Cardinal Dulles. This year it will undoubtedly be populated by the future leaders of any American Ordinariate, including a few possible Ordinaries, as well as potential leaders of other countries’s ordinaries. Here’s the website:

anglicanuseconference.com/

I also endorse the Anglo Catholic blog and Forum. It’s a great website moderated by a leader in the TAC here in America and co-writen by a growing list of Catholic- and Ordinariate-leaning Anglican leaders from within and without the Catholic Church, including some of the pioneers of Anglican Use and the Pastoral Provision. You have seen some of them on EWTN.

I second Bruce’s suggestion of attending the Anglican Use Conference. I would be there this year, except I have to get a mission team off 13 June for Peru.

The Anglican Use Website also list Anglican Use parishes and I have seen activity on the forming of anglican use parishes. Another good source of information.

Fr. Mark

 

[thegreypiper]

thank you all for your responses, thats very informing.

I continue to pray for all in the AC who seek full communion.

God bless!

And after all of Canterbury has come home to Rome, may Rome come home to Byzantium!!