So how do conservative Christians feel about that Norway killer

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…who was a self proclaimed Christian anti-Islamic far right nationalist? Is he dismissed as a phony as no real Christian would kill another person? Or can it just be said that he needed a lot of help? Would it be absurd, while admitting fully that he did wrong, for somebody to sympathize with his frustration with society?

What about people like Hitler for that matter who are often thought of as being far-right (though I don’t understand how slightly right = small government, more right = even smaller government, far right = huge government) and supposedly Christian?

How do people respond to this?
 
I sympathise with him. There is no depth to the (hypocritical) anger I consistently try to dispel in myself which is directed toward the Devil and his dealings on Earth. I can not, in good conscious, completely disavow my sympathies with those who are brave enough to fight for their beliefs. I know such a belief, on my part, is wrong, but it is how I feel. I am militantly Catholic, I reject all that is not, I do so because the links between anti-Catholicism and the degradation of the world are apparent. I was an atheist, and I was a sympathiser with all things un-Christian and anti-conservative. I know how the Devil works (so I think) poltically. I know that morally, there is no excuse for violence because life by the sword ends by the sword. Still, I cannot pity those who die by the sword of their own choosing. As harsh as it sounds.

Gott mit uns,
 
Admittedly, I don’t know many details about this man. However, I have noticed that some are responding by arguing (with evidence from his writings apparently) that he did not hold Christian beliefs.

youtube.com/watch?v=I_8IVS-x0E8&feature=feedlik

…and that the media is out to slam Christianity with this story. 🤷

I am not sure what to make of it all.
 
Bearontherun said:
Admittedly, I don’t know many details about this man. However, I have noticed that some are responding by arguing (with evidence from his writings apparently) that he did not hold Christian beliefs.

youtube.com/watch?v=I_8IVS-x0E8&feature=feedlik

…and that the media is out to slam Christianity with this story. 🤷

I am not sure what to make of it all.
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Yes, I also found this article.

Gellar: Who added “Christian” and “Conservative” to Norway shooter’s FB page?

examiner.com/political-buzz-in-fayetteville/gellar-who-added-christian-and-conservative-to-norway-shooters-facebook-pag
 
That is no way to protest.people may be drawn to listen to what he has to say but like all killer protesters(aka unibomber)they overemphazise the seriousness of the situation.But even if he were right people or governments aren’t going to change because of what he did.
 
He is psychotic.

Anyone who would do what he did is psychotic.
 
FaithBuild18 said:
…who was a self proclaimed Christian anti-Islamic far right nationalist? Is he dismissed as a phony as no real Christian would kill another person? Or can it just be said that he needed a lot of help? Would it be absurd, while admitting fully that he did wrong, for somebody to sympathize with his frustration with society?

What about people like Hitler for that matter who are often thought of as being far-right (though I don’t understand how slightly right = small government, more right = even smaller government, far right = huge government) and supposedly Christian?

How do people respond to this?
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I call the BS flag.

NO REAL CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN OF ANY DENOMINATION WOULD COMMIT SUCH AN ABOMINABLE ACT.

Any more than a genuine pro-lifer would bomb an abortion clinic. It’s all a media frenzy to get people to associate pro-life conservatism with violent lunatics.

The logic of evil.
 
Sailor_Kenshin said:
I call the BS flag.

NO REAL CONSERVATIVE CHRISTIAN OF ANY DENOMINATION WOULD COMMIT SUCH AN ABOMINABLE ACT.

Any more than a genuine pro-lifer would bomb an abortion clinic. It’s all a media frenzy to get people to associate pro-life conservatism with violent lunatics.
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Norway shooter a Darwinian terrorist?
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WASHINGTON – A review of Anders Behring Breivik’s 1,500-page manifesto shows the media’s quick characterization of the Norwegian terrorist as a “Christian” may be as incorrect as it was to call Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh one.
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Breivik was arrested over the weekend, charged with a pair of brutal attacks in and near Oslo, Norway, including a bombing in the capital city that killed 7 and a shooting spree at a youth political retreat on the island of Utoya that killed more than 80 victims. . . . many media reports have characterized the terrorist – who says he was upset over the multiculturalist policies stemming from Norway’s Labour Party – as a “right-wing, Christian fundamentalist.”
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Yet, while McVeigh rejected God altogether, Breivik writes in his manifesto that he is not religious, has doubts about God’s existence, does not pray, but does assert the primacy of Europe’s “Christian culture” as well as his own pagan Nordic culture.
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Breivik instead hails Charles Darwin, whose evolutionary theories stand in contrast to the claims of the Bible, and affirms: “As for the Church and science, it is essential that science takes an undisputed precedence over biblical teachings.
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More here.

God help everyone involved.
 
John_Carlton said:
I sympathise with him. There is no depth to the (hypocritical) anger I consistently try to dispel in myself which is directed toward the Devil and his dealings on Earth. I can not, in good conscious, completely disavow my sympathies with those who are brave enough to fight for their beliefs. I know such a belief, on my part, is wrong, but it is how I feel. I am militantly Catholic, I reject all that is not, I do so because the links between anti-Catholicism and the degradation of the world are apparent. I was an atheist, and I was a sympathiser with all things un-Christian and anti-conservative. I know how the Devil works (so I think) poltically. I know that morally, there is no excuse for violence because life by the sword ends by the sword. Still, I cannot pity those who die by the sword of their own choosing. As harsh as it sounds.

Gott mit uns,
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How is murdering children “fighting for one’s beliefs”???
 
He’s a mentally unwell coward in need of a lenghty, if not life stay in a pscyh ward.

Anyone who beleives he’s a “real” Christian are about as clever as a sack of bricks.
 
In my opinion, if killing a gay person is wrong (which it is), and being gay is traditionally a sin, then killing Muslims must be wrong despite their religion.

God bless :byzsoc:

David
 
I would tend to be a skeptic about the nature of the man as reported by the media. In all seriousness he could be a an MKULTRA type project like the Unabomber. It is equally convenient for this to be Muslim terrorism or a White Christian Norwegian. If the media is to be believed this guy seems to be like an American neocon more than anything else.

Norway like most of the west is being destroyed by unfettered immigration. It is easy to be furious at politicians for what they do but this guy seems to have mostly targeted innocent children. I cant imagine how anyone would think this would help their cause.
 
Mr Breivik, you are just a coward. If you really believe what you preach, why did you attack children. You are no better than the cowards you protest.
 
FaithBuild18 said:
…who was a self proclaimed Christian anti-Islamic far right nationalist? Is he dismissed as a phony as no real Christian would kill another person? Or can it just be said that he needed a lot of help? Would it be absurd, while admitting fully that he did wrong, for somebody to sympathize with his frustration with society?
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I agree with Sailor Kenshin and everyone else.
What about people like Hitler for that matter who are often thought of as being far-right (though I don’t understand how slightly right = small government, more right = even smaller government, far right = huge government) and supposedly Christian?
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The original appelation of Hitler and National Socialism as “right-wing” came from the Soviets. Hitler was on the “right-wing” of the *left," not of the entire political spectrum. National socialism differed from international socialism and communism by reason of its focus on the one nation rather than on class as the internationalosts did. Look for Liberal Fascism by Jonah Goldberg for details on how the US Leftists loved Hotler and Mussolini before the Soviets turned against them.
 
He is not one of us. Conservative Christians do not advocate for the murder of children. You can self identify, if indeed he did, as anything. But that does not make you so.
 
I have to wonder whether whatever caused the Norway killer to commit this atrocity is the same process that acts in Muslim fanatics.

There was a book called “Why They Kill” that discussed research in criminal violence that basically said that violence begets violence. Killers become killers because they are exposed to violence, they witness violence, and they are coached in violence.
 
He’s a murderer, and there’s not a whole lot more to know about it. Maybe he’s psychotic and maybe he’s not, but he’s a murderer either way. His reasons and the reasons anybody has for doing things like this, are not sufficient to justify the act.
 
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