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You’re not going to like this, but it was NOT directed at you at all. I was referring to the Protestants who tell Catholics we are wrong on our interpertation, because they are right. These same people will argue against the Church being infallible, yet to say we’re wrong and they are right is assuming they have the correct interpretation which makes their interpretation infallible.
Prod, actually I do like that it wasn’t. 🙂
 
Portuguese chouriço

Portuguese chouriço is made with pork, fat, wine, paprika and salt. It is then stuffed into natural or artificial casings and slowly dried over smoke. There are many different varieties, changing in color, shape, seasoning and taste. Many dishes of Portuguese cuisine and Brazilian cuisine make use of chouriço - Cozido à portuguesa and Feijoada are just two of them.citation needed]
A popular way to prepare chouriço is partially sliced and flame cooked over alcohol at the table. Special glazed earthenware dishes with a lattice top are used for this purpose.
In Portugal there is also a blood chouriço (chouriço de sangue) very similar to the Black Pudding, amongst many other types of Enchidos, such as Alheira, Linguiça, Morcela, Farinheira, Chouriço de Vinho, Chouriço de ossos, Cacholeira, Paia, Paio, Paiola, Paiote, Salpicão and Tripa enfarinhada.
 

I agree that they lest, not because He wanted to be hidden, but because of what He said.​

I disagree that He would have said it was symbolism to keep them from leaving if it was symbolism. Jesus spoke in parables and explained them to His disciples only. Not everyone is able to understand; God hardened the heart of Pharoah.
the word symbolism is not there. you insert this word in it.
in fact Jesus did explain to the disciples. He said: My Body is real food and my Blood is True Drink." does anyone see the word symbolism here?
 
I’m going out on a limb, ok I don’t have to go out too far 🙂 and will presume you include me in “some on this thread”. A unity in name of Christ is not true? Why can’t we all just try to get along in the name of love He taught? Love is a truth He clearly taught. Another truth is I’m thinking of ordering a meat pizza before Wednesday. However faith is you believe you should abstain on Wednesday.
Jesus loves everyone but if one did not believe Him, he stayed away .

it is really a bad thing to use the Name of Jesus to justify their umbelief.

we have to discern the Spirit. if you dont believe what the CC teaches, than one is in disobedience to Christ. wether they know or not.

they have an obligation to seek the Truth.
 
Portuguese chouriço

Portuguese chouriço is made with pork, fat, wine, paprika and salt. It is then stuffed into natural or artificial casings and slowly dried over smoke. There are many different varieties, changing in color, shape, seasoning and taste. Many dishes of Portuguese cuisine and Brazilian cuisine make use of chouriço - Cozido à portuguesa and Feijoada are just two of them.citation needed]
A popular way to prepare chouriço is partially sliced and flame cooked over alcohol at the table. Special glazed earthenware dishes with a lattice top are used for this purpose.
In Portugal there is also a blood chouriço (chouriço de sangue) very similar to the Black Pudding, amongst many other types of Enchidos, such as Alheira, Linguiça, Morcela, Farinheira, Chouriço de Vinho, Chouriço de ossos, Cacholeira, Paia, Paio, Paiola, Paiote, Salpicão and Tripa enfarinhada.
i love feijoada.
 
Portuguese chouriço

Portuguese chouriço is made with pork, fat, wine, paprika and salt. It is then stuffed into natural or artificial casings and slowly dried over smoke. There are many different varieties, changing in color, shape, seasoning and taste. Many dishes of Portuguese cuisine and Brazilian cuisine make use of chouriço - Cozido à portuguesa and Feijoada are just two of them.citation needed]
A popular way to prepare chouriço is partially sliced and flame cooked over alcohol at the table. Special glazed earthenware dishes with a lattice top are used for this purpose.
In Portugal there is also a blood chouriço (chouriço de sangue) very similar to the Black Pudding, amongst many other types of Enchidos, such as Alheira, Linguiça, Morcela, Farinheira, Chouriço de Vinho, Chouriço de ossos, Cacholeira, Paia, Paio, Paiola, Paiote, Salpicão and Tripa enfarinhada.
Steve, if it doesn’t have too much of an alcohol aftertaste it does sound sorta heavenly to me. 🙂 Hmm. Well truthfully I was just thinking of the Hut large $10 deal with pepperoni, sausage, beef, and ham. Ham is sorta pork though. 😉 The next time you have chourico, enjoy! 👍
 
the word symbolism is not there. you insert this word in it.
in fact Jesus did explain to the disciples. He said: My Body is real food and my Blood is True Drink." does anyone see the word symbolism here?
Wisdom, I think you know some Christians do. As I understand those who see symbolism, they believe what Christ was saying is the sacrifice of His body and blood on the cross was for us. The sacrifice of His body and blood on the cross was our food and drink with which we could live forever. And it is this sacrifice which we are to believe as truth. Eat, chew gnaw at, and all of that symbolic for believe. I know in one verse He speaks of the Spirit giving life. And some do this in remembrance of Him while in the real presence of His Spirit. I only posted this in hope it helps you understand where some believers see symbolism. But perhaps another can better explain further. But hope that helps!
 
Steve, if it doesn’t have too much of an alcohol aftertaste it does sound sorta heavenly to me. 🙂 Hmm. Well truthfully I was just thinking of the Hut large $10 deal with pepperoni, sausage, beef, and ham. Ham is sorta pork though. 😉 The next time you have chourico, enjoy! 👍
Most of the time we either grill it (hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm delicious) or sautee it with peppers and onions. Or…sometimes I just take a piece and eat it freshly smoked. 👍

No need to use alcohol to cook it.
 
Jesus loves everyone but if one did not believe Him, he stayed away .

it is really a bad thing to use the Name of Jesus to justify their umbelief.

we have to discern the Spirit. if you dont believe what the CC teaches, than one is in disobedience to Christ. wether they know or not.

they have an obligation to seek the Truth.
I believe we all seek the Truth. Jn14:6 Jesus answered him, I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one goes to the Father except by me.
 
Most of the time we either grill it (hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm delicious) or sautee it with peppers and onions. Or…sometimes I just take a piece and eat it freshly smoked. 👍

No need to use alcohol to cook it.
👍 then I’m in! with peppers and onions yeah it might be almost heaven on earth 😃
 
You’re not going to like this, but it was NOT directed at you at all. I was referring to the Protestants who tell Catholics we are wrong on our interpertation, because they are right. These same people will argue against the Church being infallible, yet to say we’re wrong and they are right is assuming they have the correct interpretation which makes their interpretation infallible.
I don’t know that a single Protestant here has claimed “infallible” anything. Why do you presume that to consider oneself on a rewarding path that it must be "infallible?
 
I don’t know that a single Protestant here has claimed “infallible” anything. Why do you presume that to consider oneself on a rewarding path that it must be "infallible?
Well, then by what authority can one Christian tell another Christian their interpretation is wrong if infallibility is not important? For example, how can a Protestant say Catholics are wrong about Christ giving Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven?
 
Well, then by what authority can one Christian tell another Christian their interpretation is wrong if infallibility is not important? For example, how can a Protestant say Catholics are wrong about Christ giving Peter the keys to the kingdom of heaven?
I don’t consider myself infallible, but I do consider myself right about some things outside of religion. I can’t swear that I am 100% right, beyond all uncertainty, but that is not necessary for me to be confident and continue.

Is it for you?

BTW, I don’t argue that CC is “wrong,” I argue that the Bible is written in such a way as to make other interpretations just as valid. I am not “exclusionary” in my logic or thinking. I have always thought that if their is a God, that ALL religions, more or less–and none of them perfectly–move their believers toward that godhead.

Why the need to tell anyone that their faith in “God” is wrong???
 
I don’t consider myself infallible, but I do consider myself right about some things outside of religion. I can’t swear that I am 100% right, beyond all uncertainty, but that is not necessary for me to be confident and continue.

Is it for you?

BTW, I don’t argue that CC is “wrong,” I argue that the Bible is written in such a way as to make other interpretations just as valid. I am not “exclusionary” in my logic or thinking. I have always thought that if their is a God, that ALL religions, more or less–and none of them perfectly–move their believers toward that godhead.

Why the need to tell anyone that their faith in “God” is wrong???
It’s my understanding that the path is narrow and not all that call His name will He recognize. So should I just trust my salvation to anyone that says they’re right, without any kind of Biblical support?
 
Okay…I’ve mentioned this before…but here goes again.

We have so much energy in trying to convince each other who’s doctrines are most biblical or apostolic or or or. Can you imagine if everyone posting in this thread went to address the muslims on their threads denying Christ? OMGosh…they wouldn’t know where to turn. We have chance to show where we are united.

Think about it…pleeeeeeease. 😃
Amen amen !!!
 
It’s my understanding that the path is narrow and not all that call His name will He recognize. So should I just trust my salvation to anyone that says they’re right, without any kind of Biblical support?
I wouldn’t, no.

Who offers salvation “without any kind of Biblical support”? That is an extreme, and you seem to be discussing this only from opposite poles, while most of life is lived in the range between.
 
I wouldn’t, no.

Who offers salvation “without any kind of Biblical support”? That is an extreme, and you seem to be discussing this only from opposite poles, while most of life is lived in the range between.
All Protestants say they have the way to salvation, but some say others are wrong. If it seems extreme, understand this is our eternal being we’re discussing. So, is there anyway to narrow it down to those who are correct and those who are not correct?
 
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