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We don’t discount that at all. In fact, we preach and teach on it all the time.I find it curious that “bible christians” discount the Bible.
St. Peter clearly states: “Repent, and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins,” [Acts 2:38]
We just understand it different than you.
Last year, we had a party** for my brother in law’s fiftieth birthday. So, when we say that we had a party* for ***his birthday, does that mean that it was necessary for us to have a party in order for him to turn fifty? Or does it mean that we commemorated his birthday with a party?
Same here.“baptized for the remission of sins” means to commemorate the remission of sins we’ve already received as the result of our regeneration and salvation.
Why did you choose to omit so much from that passage?and “Baptism…now saves you.”[1Pe3:21]
Here is how it should be rendered:
1 Peter 3:18-22 - 18For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20becausee they formerly did not obey, when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water. 21Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him.
Changes the meaning quite a bit when somebody quote it in context for you, doesn’t it?
St. Paul, also:
Titus 3:5: “[H]e saved us, not because of deeds done by us in righteousness, but in virtue of His own mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewal in the Holy Spirit.”
1 Corinthians 6:11: “But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.”
What do any of these have to do with baptism?Romans 6:3–4: Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? We were buried therefore with Him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.
So, how can you say that baptism is required for salvation when the verse doesn’t say that one is not baptized is condemned, but one who does not believe?Mr 16:16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.
The problem is that it doesn’t say that a lack of baptism will condemn, only a lack of faith.See the double-conditional there? It says that there are TWO conditions to be saved.