What a wonderful post!
full of the usual rancour and misunderstanding
What it is full of is facts that you can’t answer, hence your continuing obfuscation. You’re the only one here who hasn’t noticed that you’re hiding from the truth in plain sight.
Doc Keele:
You don’t seem to be able to understand what the issues are, hence this lame stuff about obfuscation.
No, what we have here is your typical liberal BS where you never actually put out one single fact, but alluded to your thinking being the same as Worthy5. Are you the same person? If not, quit messing around with everyone’s time and debate.
But, then again, you’re not here to debate. You’re here as a flamer, trying to rouse people’s passions by stupid little petty games of obfuscation.
Doc Keele:
You don’t know the first thing about jurisprudence. Fact.
LOL And how are you going to prove such a stupid statement without actually challenging me on EXACTLY what I said, instead of making up ****?
Doc Keele:
Of course laws are imposed on people, but certain laws shouldn’t be imposed on people.
This is about as close as we will ever get from you actually admitting to any point. I suppose we might take some mild comfort in that.
Doc Keele:
Many people believe that the area of abortion is one of them…
So what? Many people believe that the area of abortion is one place that we need to have laws AGAINST it. As a matter of fact, poll after poll shows clearly that at the very minimum, people believe that there should be some restrictions on abortion. Many states have tried to place restrictions that state that no abortion can be carried out except in the case of the mother’s life, but courts keep on striking those decisions down based upon nonsense.
Doc Keele:
…and the reasons have been expounded at length on these fora.
Certainly not by you. No one here knows any reason that you believe that abortion should have no laws restricting it. We keep on asking, and you keep on obfuscating. People like you NEVER answer direct questions because they know that direct answers will ultimately lead to conclusions that they cannot bear, or defend against. Hence, your obfuscating.
Doc Keele:
You, like many here, refuse to see that there is a difference that is relevant to some people between laws that affect autonomy in such a profound way as anti-abortion laws and other criminal laws. I doubt that you will either see that.
I know that you fancy me, as well as most of the pro-lifers on this forum, as idiots that couldn’t possibly ever get anything figured out about why you do and say what you do and say. But the fact is, we do understand clearly that there is a profound difference in what you BELIEVE and what is reality. You believe that human life is not human, and therefore, you defend your nonsense against all scientific evidence.
We also understand that you BELIEVE that “laws affecting autonomy in such a profound way as anti-abortion laws” are not moral laws, because you operate on a “higher” moral plane than the rest of us pro-lifers. Your higher plane of morality sees that there is some moronic right to privacy embedded within the Constitution that supercedes God’s moral law of “Thou shalt not kill.”
Doc Keele:
Since you’ve already dismissed my initial very relevant efforts as obfuscation, anything I post will be labelled as a rabbit trail by you. No debate possible.
LOL I am literally ROFLMBO!!! Another wonderful game that liberals like you play, is to PROJECT their failing upon their opponents. You have mastered this losing tactic well.
Doc Keele:
I don’t need to demonstrate a fundamental difference between laws against murder and laws against abortion.
Of course not, because Doc Keele resides on a higher plane of moral consciousness than us mere peons of pro-life. Besides the fact that you know that it is IMPOSSIBLE to do so, so you obfuscate some more.
Doc Keele:
I have posted many times about the problems with banning abortion - the effect on the woman’s autonomy. No doubt you won’t understand the point being made.
No doubt you are quite wrong. I understand ABSOLUTELY what you are saying. The difference is that I REJECT your belief, because it fails to recognize the life that is being ended is a human life. You seem to be able to reject all modern science that clearly indicates that this is a human life.
Doc Keele:
Law is not there to make people moral…
True. Laws are like locks. They are placed there to keep honest people honest.
Doc Keele:
…except in a theocracy like the Iranian Islamic Republic.
Another famous pasttime of liberals: every chance you get, liken those pesky prolifers and other Christians who insist that you live a moral life as the equivalent of the Iranian Islamic Republic.
Doc Keele:
The majority do not want criminalisation of homosexuality.
More
non sequiturs designed to obfuscate. Let’s try this one more time:
Enough of your obfuscating, Ok? Since you failed to answer the WHOLE REASON FOR THIS POST AND MY LAST POST, let’s get back to business, and you explain to me, if you can, why it is that people can have imposed on them laws such as “do not steal, do not murder, do not lie, do not speed, etc.” but they can’t have imposed on them a law not to abort a baby? The question is a WHY question, which actually demands more than a simple yes or no. It demands thought and reason.
If you can’t answer the question, just say so. Don’t attempt to bring us on another rabbit trail.
