So let's talk about today's readings 2/19/09

[cheeto1]

usccb.org/nab/readings/021909.shtml

“dread fear of you shall come upon all the animals of the earth”
Is that why the little birdies and chipmunks are afraid of us?
Or do you think it’s because of this: “Every creature that is
alive shall be yours to eat”? Wait a minute, I thought all the
animals weren’t made “clean” until the New Testament?
And now this: “If anyone sheds the blood of man, by man
shall his blood be shed”. And then by man shall HIS blood be
shed, and then by man shall HIS blood be shed, and then by
man shall HIS blood by shed, etc… what if that happened?
Also, I wonder why there was no rainbow before the flood?

“Who do you say that I am?” It never ends does it? because
we answer, and then God just, asks us again the next day!
Read the first post of this:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=312716
It’s really good.

So, what struck you about today’s readings?:bible1:

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

usccb.org/nab/readings/021909.shtml

“dread fear of you shall come upon all the animals of the earth”
Is that why the little birdies and chipmunks are afraid of us?

I don’t know. Could be. There’s really no way to know.

Or do you think it’s because of this: “Every creature that is alive shall be yours to eat”? Wait a minute, I thought all the animals weren’t made “clean” until the New Testament?

That could be as well. I think God was simply saying that man could now eat the flesh of animals. There was no indication previously that animals could be used for food. The Mosaic Law didn’t come till later.

And now this: “If anyone sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed”. And then by man shall HIS blood be shed, and then by man shall HIS blood be shed, and then by
man shall HIS blood by shed, etc… what if that happened?

I don’t understand what you mean exactly. I think justice is being alluded to here. You know - eye for an eye, tooth for tooth, etc.

Also, I wonder why there was no rainbow before the flood?

Because the rainbow was a sign that God gave mankind that He would not destroy the earth again by a flood. There was simply no need for that sign before the flood because it hadn’t happened yet.

“Who do you say that I am?” It never ends does it? because we answer, and then God just, asks us again the next day! Read the first post of this:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=312716
It’s really good.

I don’t get what you are implying here or what that has to do with the thread topic.

So, what struck you about today’s readings?:bible1:

I take many things, predominantly the concepts of repentance, renewal and hope. Hope that helps.

Peace…

MW

 

[cheeto1]

The Mosaic Law didn’t come till later.

Oh yes, you are right.:doh2:

 

[cheeto1]

I don’t understand what you mean exactly. I think justice is being alluded to here. You know - eye for an eye, tooth for tooth, etc.

What I mean is this: If a man kills someone, he has shed his
blood. It is now decreed by God that because of this, another
man should kill the first one. But if he does this, then physically
speaking, he has also shed someone’s blood. So then what if
another person had to shed his blood, and another person had
to shed his blood, until there were no more people left? I’m sure
it was understood that the justice was as you describe, but what
if someone thought a person was unjustly killed for some reason,
and it set off a big chain reaction like I described? Oh, well, I
guess that didn’t happen…that we know of…

 

[cheeto1]

Because the rainbow was a sign that God gave mankind that He would not destroy the earth again by a flood. There was simply no need for that sign before the flood because it hadn’t happened yet.

There was no need for it, yes. But, we know we see a rainbow
when the water in the sky is between us and the sun and the
clouds aren’t covering it up. So why before the flood did
a rainbow not happen when these conditions happened?
Scientifically speaking… it is a mystery…

 

[cheeto1]

I don’t get what you are implying here or what that has to do with the thread topic.

The line “Who do you say that I am?” is the line that struck me
from today’s gospel.
And you say repentence, renewal and hope, is what struck you.
I understand the renewal and hope, but what part of today’s
readings made you think “repentence”?

Thanks for discussing the readings, sorry I don’t know how to
put all the quotes I’m answering into one post. If it’s easy to
explain, could you tell me how you do it? --thanks

 

[COPLAND_3]

Here’s today’s readings with commentary litteralchristianlibrary.wetpaint.com/page/Thursday%2C+February+19%2C+2009

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

What I mean is this: If a man kills someone, he has shed his
blood. It is now decreed by God that because of this, another
man should kill the first one. But if he does this, then physically
speaking, he has also shed someone’s blood. So then what if
another person had to shed his blood, and another person had
to shed his blood, until there were no more people left? I’m sure
it was understood that the justice was as you describe, but what
if someone thought a person was unjustly killed for some reason,
and it set off a big chain reaction like I described? Oh, well, I
guess that didn’t happen…that we know of…

Since God knows the future, He saw that Noah and his descendants would institute a justice system that previously did not exist. Noah would not personally do this, but the community would enact the judgement on the person. You should read up on the Noahide covenant to gain a better understanding. I cannot do the topic justice here.

MW

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

The line “Who do you say that I am?” is the line that struck me
from today’s gospel.
And you say repentence, renewal and hope, is what struck you.
I understand the renewal and hope, but what part of today’s
readings made you think “repentence”?

Thanks for discussing the readings, sorry I don’t know how to
put all the quotes I’m answering into one post. If it’s easy to
explain, could you tell me how you do it? --thanks

If you think about what just happened - the flood - you see that the people of the world did not repent even though they were given the chance to do so. That’s why I spoke of repentance. Had they repented the outcome might have been different.

As far as quoting goes, highlight a section of text that you want to quote, click the little baloon button on the top right, to the left of the # symbol. That text will now show the “quote” and “/quote” tags added to the text. Write your response after the “/quote”

You are welcome my friend. These are only my thoughts on the readings. We can all learn from each other.

Peace…

MW

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

There was no need for it, yes. But, we know we see a rainbow
when the water in the sky is between us and the sun and the
clouds aren’t covering it up. So why before the flood did
a rainbow not happen when these conditions happened?
Scientifically speaking… it is a mystery…

I really don’t know. But, we should probably consider that the conditions that exist after the flood may not have been present before the flood, causing the difference. It certainly is a mystery.

Peace…

MW

 

[Beachcomber]

“Who do you say that I am?” that’s the crucial question. I think it’s the crux of faith. People can know Jesus as a teacher, a good man but not as the Savior, the Son of God. That question is important for all of us to reflect on, I think. We can use that to mature in our spiritual life and grow closer to God.