So sad....

[MakeUpArtist]

I think you might be confusing a hysterectomy with a tubal ligation.

 

[Nordar]

I know they are done unnecessarily (along with the NECESSARY ones–duh!) because I’ve had more than one doctor offer to do one on me. I have PCOS–that was undiagnosed for years by lazy doctors who didn’t want to mess with testing me. They offered to ‘get rid of the problem’ by doing a total hyster on me before age 30. That, or take birth control pills, those were the options I was given. Once I finally found a competent doctor, it was as simple as doing enough tests to find the problem, then prescribing a simple pill I take daily (NOT birth control!). But if I would have listened to the other docs, I would be sterile for NO REASON.
And I know it has happened to others. I have had several women tell me they had hysters just because they started menopause, so their doc said they better ‘take it out before it caused problems–then you can start your hormone replacement’. We need to find out about our health issues, and get second, and even third opinions. Many surgeries are unnecessary, and hysters with no diagnosis of cancer are right up there on the list. So what is next–I have a stomachache, so remove the entire digestive system? A headache–so take the brain out? Many gyn problems can be fixed by competent specialists, like reproductive endocrinologists, without surgery. That was my point. You do not have to take it all out just because there is a problem–there are other treatments available, but most people blindly follow their docs who push surgery instead of finding out their options. Just like people vote without knowing all the facts. We are turning into a country of sheep, and that is just pathetic.

Could you be any more uncharitable and judgemental.?
Are you a doctor? your point is rather mute, do you have statistics on all those Doc’s who give hysterectomies needlessly?.
Your turning into sheep comment was totally uncalled for.

 

[Island_Oak]

That’s a bit of an overreaction considering there was absolutely no indication in the story of why this woman was having a hysterectomy.

Totally befuddled by this thread. We women ovulate monthly…and more often than not shed the egg(s) without creating a life. How is this fact made “sad” in the context of a hysterectomy? If there’s any sadness to be found it’s for the woman who more likely than not was undergoing the procedure to avoid a serious threat to her health.

 

[Nordar]

Totally befuddled by this thread. We women ovulate monthly…and more often than not shed the egg(s) without creating a life. How is this fact made “sad” in the context of a hysterectomy? If there’s any sadness to be found it’s for the woman who more likely than not was undergoing the procedure to avoid a serious threat to her health.

 

[NoxSineStellae]

I’m still baffled by the “obviously her parts still all worked” comment. How on earth can you possibly know that from this picture?!

I’m curious how you can make the leap from ovulation occuring to it being “obvious” that “all her parts” are working properly. You’re seriously viewing this and telling us you’re qualified to declare this woman has no cancer or endo or other life-threatening or hideously painful conditions and is just selfishly wanting not to have hot flashes or babies even though a hysterectomy isn’t a proper recourse for either situation?

And of course it’s the beginnings of life “in a way” because it’s not actually the beginnings of life! Is this what they’re teaching in biology class these days? That an egg being released is conception? Or do you think she was having sex during the surgery and sperm were hanging around? Should we all have sex every single time we ovulate from the onset of puberty to natural menopause lest we be anti-life and stop a baby from being born? Because that’s what it sounds like you’re suggesting.

 

[thomfra]

Totally befuddled by this thread. We women ovulate monthly…and more often than not shed the egg(s) without creating a life. How is this fact made “sad” in the context of a hysterectomy?

Exactly. Is every “unfertilised” egg to be an occasion of sadness…???

 

[iluvmybabies]

For all our dear friends here on the forum, I think the OP was just trying to establish her thoughts and feelings over this, expressing her opinions…anyone can jump to conclusions and opinionate what they feel by just looking at the picture…Perhaps it was uncalled for the whole “sheep” thing but in either case, those that are also going against her are pretty much doing what she is doing which is expressing their feelings as well…

The pictures are dramatic, and without knowing further information I can not say or really give a “scientific” or “medical term” for the situation or explanation, but of course I can express my feelings over what I see and it is an amazing process. Perhaps it may be an unfortunate event that this woman might have been able to still procreate but unfortunately she was getting this surgery done for whatever medical reasons, and I too have been asked by doctor’s on sooooo many occassions to get my tubes tied, or have a hys, but of course it’s my choice if I feel like I need my tubes tied or not, not the doctor’s. Not only that but I have an aunt who only had 1 child in her entire life, but because she was found to have uterus cancer at a late stage there was nothing doctor’s could do and had to have a hys done, ever since then she has retired from her husband and divorced him, she was only 40 years old, she kept telling her bf whom is my mom, that she didn’t feel she was a woman any more and couldn’t see her husband the same…since most of the reasons pointed out were the fact that she kept getting yeast infections too often because her husband was out cheating on some occassions…So she gave up on love all together… Now that’s sad, and she too was ovulating and still able to reproduce if it wasn’t for a lifethreatening disease caught too late…

But yes scientifically that is a wonderful thing to view as my opinion, because hello, ovaries are inside us so we have never seen this, so for someone to catch this will help doctor’s and scientists to perhaps help understand the female body a little better and help figure out cures for diseases, you know? Maybe…

So please everyone may GOD bless you all, and please have a great day!!

 

[KayFrisco]

I know they are done unnecessarily (along with the NECESSARY ones–duh!) because I’ve had more than one doctor offer to do one on me. I have PCOS–that was undiagnosed for years by lazy doctors who didn’t want to mess with testing me. They offered to ‘get rid of the problem’ by doing a total hyster on me before age 30. That, or take birth control pills, those were the options I was given. Once I finally found a competent doctor, it was as simple as doing enough tests to find the problem, then prescribing a simple pill I take daily (NOT birth control!). But if I would have listened to the other docs, I would be sterile for NO REASON.
And I know it has happened to others. I have had several women tell me they had hysters just because they started menopause, so their doc said they better ‘take it out before it caused problems–then you can start your hormone replacement’. We need to find out about our health issues, and get second, and even third opinions. Many surgeries are unnecessary, and hysters with no diagnosis of cancer are right up there on the list. So what is next–I have a stomachache, so remove the entire digestive system? A headache–so take the brain out? Many gyn problems can be fixed by competent specialists, like reproductive endocrinologists, without surgery. That was my point. You do not have to take it all out just because there is a problem–there are other treatments available, but most people blindly follow their docs who push surgery instead of finding out their options. Just like people vote without knowing all the facts. We are turning into a country of sheep, and that is just pathetic.

It is a terrible thing that you did not find a doctor willing to put more effort and thought into finding a less drastic answer for your health issue. That is certainly deeply offensive and traumatic, and probably frightening for you as well. It is completely true that we can’t always blindly follow just any doctor’s recommendation, but certainly many women pray for guidance in the face of such a deeply personal decision. We also must acknowledge that the Holy Spirit also guides His people in so many different ways – sometimes they know in an instant what they must do.

In many ways, we as humans are strongly affected by our experiences – some very traumatic. In the face of those reactions and feelings, we also need to incorporate more effort and thought into extending grace to people who make a different choice than we do… and to not judge all doctors for the faults of a few. We never know what another human has experienced, nor the time spent praying for guidance. Perhaps the least we can extend to them, is the trust and respect that they were free to make the choice that was most life-giving for them.

My mother was one who bled constantly, and had her uterus removed. She drank tons of water a day back then, and her thirst was finally attributed to the huge amount of fluid her body was losing due to the bleeding.

Perhaps certain toxins (aka estrogen mimickers) in the environment could be a reason why females have more issues with their reproductive systems than males do? Although that theory does offer examples of male animals that seem to be reproductively affected my those mimickers as well.

 

[KayFrisco]

But I can’t leave the thread without adding my own initial reaction!

What breath-taking images! I’m so grateful that we get to witness something so beautiful thru pictures. I hope the Dr had the best of reasons for having time (or taking the time) to catch these phases. I was once so overwhelmed while dissecting a quail egg (removing the top of the shell the day the quail was to hatch) that I was physically and emotionally stunned and just breathless! I could barely do anything but “see” it move and “see” every tiny vessel and feature in this microscopic universe of a creature. Perhaps the wonder of the moment left the Dr with little capacity other than to let the camera roll (he might’ve been taping the procedure?).

I suppose it is possible that the doctor works at a teaching/research hospital, and that the patient was aware of and approved that aspect of her operation. One summer I worked at a hospital and was very surprised how many patients were gracious and willing for me to be there in a learning capacity (not necessarily surgery), even though it obviously meant that even a simple procedure would take extra time.

 

[ThyKingdomCome]

Totally befuddled by this thread. We women ovulate monthly…and more often than not shed the egg(s) without creating a life. How is this fact made “sad” in the context of a hysterectomy? If there’s any sadness to be found it’s for the woman who more likely than not was undergoing the procedure to avoid a serious threat to her health.

Well, I am befuddled by the fact that the thread has turned into a hostile argument about hysterectomies (well actually more frustrated than surprised). But I actually can see what she meant by sad, although I’d say more bittersweet. I think for many (perhaps most?) women who have hysterectomies, it is a sad event. It may be an easy decision because of the health need (or perceived need), but most women mourn the loss of their fertility when it goes (even if it is through natural menopause), and a hysterectomy is very sudden way for that to happen. To then see your body still actively being fertile, and watching this amazing feet of preparing for a new life, all the while you know you are bluntly ending your fertile years, might make me feel sad. Assuming I really needed the surgery, I’d deal, but at the least it would be bittersweet.

 

[ThyKingdomCome]

Oh and, wow! Amazing pictures. It really is neat to see what it’s like. (even though my squeamish side does sqeam a bit)

 

[SuscipeMeDomine]

Well, I am befuddled by the fact that the thread has turned into a hostile argument about hysterectomies (well actually more frustrated than surprised). But I actually can see what she meant by sad, although I’d say more bittersweet. I think for many (perhaps most?) women who have hysterectomies, it is a sad event. It may be an easy decision because of the health need (or perceived need), but most women mourn the loss of their fertility when it goes (even if it is through natural menopause), and a hysterectomy is very sudden way for that to happen. To then see your body still actively being fertile, and watching this amazing feet of preparing for a new life, all the while you know you are bluntly ending your fertile years, might make me feel sad. Assuming I really needed the surgery, I’d deal, but at the least it would be bittersweet.

I wouldn’t call it bittersweet because I don’t know what would be considered the sweet part.

When you’re given a choice of “have this surgery” or “die” it’s pretty easy to make the decision. It’s afterward that you have to deal with what that means in terms of fertility and other issues.

 

[ThyKingdomCome]

I wouldn’t call it bittersweet because I don’t know what would be considered the sweet part.

When you’re given a choice of “have this surgery” or “die” it’s pretty easy to make the decision. It’s afterward that you have to deal with what that means in terms of fertility and other issues.

I just mean - happy that I’m going to be healthy again, yet simultaneously sad about the loss of my fertility. Maybe bittersweet isn’t quite right either.

 

[kamz]

I wouldn’t call it bittersweet because I don’t know what would be considered the sweet part.

When you’re given a choice of “have this surgery” or “die” it’s pretty easy to make the decision. It’s afterward that you have to deal with what that means in terms of fertility and other issues.

I was thinking the same thing.

My own mom had a hysterectomy when she was 36 and she never felt bad about it or missed her fertility… she had periods for six years that lasted two and three weeks and she had serious anemia, after her operation the doctor said my mom could not have gotten pregnant if she had wanted to, her ovaries were as shriveled up as prunes and she had huge benign tumors in her uterus that would cause her to bleed all the time… she was thrilled to be done with all the bleeding and soaking one pad after another ( I can remember as a child sitting outside the bathroom door while my mom cried, I didn’t know until I was an adult it was because she was so depressed that her periods were so bad and she felt house bound due to the heavy blood loss) everyone has a different story and while there might be a handful of unnecessary hysterectomies done… we don’t know and we can’t sit in judgement… that is NOT up to us… that is just so dangerous to start judging when we don’t know what is going on in each individual persons life… what if this woman had cancer? What if keep her uterus also meant losing her life to cancer? What good would those ovaries do her then? We need to practice compassion and we need to assume that we don’t know the full story so it is best not to jump to conclusions. It is an interesting picture that is for sure but as someone said… should all eggs be fertilized eggs? That is just silly… what about my 15 yr old daughter? Those eggs are just that “eggs” and someday when she is a married woman and that egg becomes fertilized… then… then we have something totally awesome and amazing… we have life

 

[MakeUpArtist]

At 45, the chances of this woman getting pregnant would be very low anyway.