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Simple. Lack of Faith.
We are supposed to always charitably assume the best intentions of others.
Simple. Lack of Faith.
If you have children in sports, there can be conflicts in the scheduling of games and Mass.Football! Really, though I donāt think thatās an excuse. It infuriates me that people have to rush to their cars and beat the traffic instead of maybe spending a bit of time talking with their friends.
Well, when they smell a messy diaper, I am sure they would be happy you left early to change it.I cannot answer for others, but I have left Mass early sometimes. It usually has to do with restraining an unruly child just long enough to get through the Liturgy of the Eucharist, and then I slip out the door to remove the child to another place so she doesnāt get loud and disrupt the Mass. Sometimes, I am in and out through the Mass with said child. Othertimes, my husband and I are going to separate Masses, and in order for both of us arrive on time to our respective Masses, one of us must leave the Mass before final procession, especially if Fatherās homily is a long one. It is a balancing act. We know it is a sin to leave early without serious reason, but sometimes we do have such reasons and must leave early.
agree
We are supposed to always charitably assume the best intentions of others.
Thankfully, it is not up to one personās imagination to determine if there are legitimate reasons to leave Mass. The Church Herself has spoken to remove the obligation for certain caregivers (such as of young children, or the elderly or infirm) and for those that are ill, especially those ill with contagious illnesses.I donāt see how there can be a valid reason to leave early.
All God asks for is ONE HOUR on a Sunday.
One hour.
That last blessing at the end of mass, that could be the last blessing by God in your earthly life you will ever receive. Tomorrow or later that day is not guaranteed. If you have social duties to do, look for an appropriate mass time so your plans donāt interfere with going to Mass.
Imagine calvary, jesus being crucified, many watchingā¦then people are like āooop gotta____ā and turn around and leave. Not a very nice thought. Unless it is a medical emergency I really see no point in leaving. I am guilty of doing this as well
Exactly. None of our business.Itās none of our business.
I would think that in this matter it would best to let the priest admonish. He is the only one in a position to see a pattern and deem something need be said. I guess we could speak to family or close friends if we see something that needs addressed and know enough to discern a serious issue.Itās not judging, itās admonishing and advice. Something we are supposed to do.
I would know because I worked crazy shifts and on call,Maria,
some people who work weekends may work some crazy 12 hours shifts. The Mass they attend may be the only one. it is none of anyone business why someone may have to leave early for Mass. Everything being perfect, people should stay for the entire Mass. But things arenāt and maybe having a more compassionate attitude to others in in store here.
Again, it was MY 2 cents.Thankfully, it is not up to one personās imagination to determine if there are legitimate reasons to leave Mass. The Church Herself has spoken to remove the obligation for certain caregivers (such as of young children, or the elderly or infirm) and for those that are ill, especially those ill with contagious illnesses.
A pregnant mother leaving to find a discreet location to handle her nausea. A parent leaving to change a diaper or feed a fussy infant. A parent removing an unruly toddler. A caregiver escorting out a special needs adult that could not handle remaining in Mass that day. I could go on and on. There are so many valid reasons for a person of good will to have to leave Mass, especially if they are responsible for the needs of other human beings.
On top of that, if we make a good faith effort to attend Mass and we are prevented from staying at Mass, we are not required to make another attempt to attend Mass that day.
I agree.I would think that in this matter it would best to let the priest admonish. He is the only one in a position to see a pattern and deem something need be said. I guess we could speak to family or close friends if we see something that needs addressed and know enough to discern a serious issue.
I am glad you clarified your position. It is much clearer now. Sometimes, it can be very hard to miss Mass or leave early so often, and I begin to feel like I might never be able to attend a full Mass and receive Holy Communion again, so the last thing people in my situation need to be worrying about is fellow laypeople judging them harshly or Father barking at them as they attempt to leave discreetly (it has happened to some people at other parishes, so I am very thankful our parish is large and our priests are gracious). I have been homebound for the last four Sundays in a row, battling with illnesses and adverse reactions to medications for my children. So maybe I was just a little oversensitive to your earlier post. Sorry!Again, it was MY 2 cents.
And I did say for medical reasons. I myself have medical problems. I have had to work insane shifts and on call. I didnāt say because of what you stated, I have family with medical special needs, I had to take a crying toddler to mass walking while I was sick (not contagious) because I, a teenager, was the only practicing Catholic in the house. I donāt know whether people have a dispensation from their priest or not. I donāt know, again why I said it was my 2 cents.
Awesome, I am happy those people still try to make it to mass. But leaving to avoid traffic and for parties, I dont see how that is negotiable. I know because I have been through there. That last blessing could be the last one we could ever recieve.
I apologize as well. I tend to be a bit rudeI am glad you clarified your position. It is much clearer now. Sometimes, it can be very hard to miss Mass or leave early so often, and I begin to feel like I might never be able to attend a full Mass and receive Holy Communion again, so the last thing people in my situation need to be worrying about is fellow laypeople judging them harshly or Father barking at them as they attempt to leave discreetly (it has happened to some people at other parishes, so I am very thankful our parish is large and our priests are gracious). I have been homebound for the last four Sundays in a row, battling with illnesses and adverse reactions to medications for my children. So maybe I was just a little oversensitive to your earlier post. Sorry!![]()
Amen!Thankfully, it is not up to one personās imagination to determine if there are legitimate reasons to leave Mass. The Church Herself has spoken to remove the obligation for certain caregivers (such as of young children, or the elderly or infirm) and for those that are ill, especially those ill with contagious illnesses.
A pregnant mother leaving to find a discreet location to handle her nausea. A parent leaving to change a diaper or feed a fussy infant. A parent removing an unruly toddler. A caregiver escorting out a special needs adult that could not handle remaining in Mass that day. I could go on and on. There are so many valid reasons for a person of good will to have to leave Mass, especially if they are responsible for the needs of other human beings.
On top of that, if we make a good faith effort to attend Mass and we are prevented from staying at Mass, we are not required to make another attempt to attend Mass that day.
I agree because I have medical needs.Amen!
I think a lot of the posters on this thread will remember their posts someday, and weep over their ignorance and insensitivity to others.
We all need to remember that there are many people who live lives that are totally different than ours.
One reason why some people might need to leave early is medical needs;e.g., incontinence is an embarrassing reality for many people, not just the elderly. And when I have an allergic reaction (swelling tongue and lips), it comes on without warning, and I have to move FAST to take the various anti-histamines so that I donāt end up in the ED having an emergency trach. My doctor still has not p(name removed by moderator)ointed the trigger for these reactions.
My older daughter gets dizzy and faint when she hasnāt eaten enough, and sometimes, this happens even if she thinks she DID eat enough.
Cāmon everyone. Show some mercy. Someday you will need it yourself when you have to leave Mass early.
Thank you, Maria. It has been a tough month. I miss Mass. Being able to be at Mass is a rare heavenly experience for me these days.I apologize as well. I tend to be a bit rude
I guess I was over sensitive as well. I have asthma and I am hypersensitive. My sister is claustrophobic so yes it is hard. And like I said medical reasons make perfect sense. Iām soryy to not have clarified.
Iāll be praying for your condition![]()
Again I am terribly sorry if I caused you any painThank you, Maria. It has been a tough month. I miss Mass. Being able to be at Mass is a rare heavenly experience for me these days.
Iāve always wondered, why bother reading everything that is already in the bulletin? If I wanted to know what was going on at the parish I could just pick up the bulletin. Why do I need someone to read it to me before I can get the final blessing?A lot of parishes that I have been to like to read you the entire bulletin at the end of mass before issuing the final blessing. It seems like a waste of everyoneās time.
Nice!My sisterās parish in Albuquerque has this cross-stitched over the back doors of the church:
JUDAS WAS THE FIRST PERSON TO EVER LEAVE MASS BEFORE IT WAS OVER
Iām told that this has been very effective there.![]()