So you think Catholisim is wrong?

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So you think Catholisim is wrong? Yes a new post to start to stop the others been highjacked! lets go!
 
dolphinlove said:
So you think Catholisim is wrong? Yes a new post to start to stop the others been highjacked! lets go!
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I don’t know what Catholisim is, but I don’t particularly agree with Roman Catholicism. 😉
 
JonNC said:
Are you looking for specifics? Or in general.

In general, far, far more right than wrong.

Jon
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What is wrong with our faith? The one true church. Do you own a Catechism? That might help with your understanding.
GB
 
I don’t think it’s wrong. I just don’t find it religiously compelling. Though I do find the Church academically and culturally fascinating.
 
I don’t think any faith which purports to know God in as much detail as Christianity does can be correct. And the more numerous and specific the details (Catholicism certainly leads the pack in that regard), the wrong-er it’s likely to be. I believe God is so far beyond our comprehension that attempts to define His characteristics (e.g. Father, Son and Holy Spirit) are hopelessly inadequate.

Neither do I believe that the Bible is an accurate record of God’s relationship with man. In particular, I do not think it’s logical that an eternal, omnipresent God would instantiate himself as man for a brief period of time in a small part of the world, and expect all of us who weren’t there to know His will solely by a written and oral record transmitted by fallible humans.
 
speakttruth said:
What is wrong with our faith? The one true church. Do you own a Catechism? That might help with your understanding.
GB
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Are you sure you’re the 1 true church? Because the Mormons would disagree with you they say they are the 1 true church. And they make the same apostolic claims you do, they also claim that Jesus Christ started their church so who’s right you, or them?
 
Rhubarb said:
I don’t think it’s wrong. I just don’t find it religiously compelling. Though I do find the Church academically and culturally fascinating.
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I tend to echo your thought…Truth is lived and demonstrated in our lives…what “sacred myths” we use to convey our understanding of The Eternal are vehicles of Truth…not Truth itself. God is Wholly Other and beyond our scope of understanding fully This Side.

Catholicism is not for me. I do not find it compelling. I have no need for a priest to perform rituals for me or in my behalf to receive God’s grace. I have a High Priest in whom I have been baptized into by His Hand…I have a High Priest who is present with the Father to make intercession for me and commune with me without the need for someone else to stand in the stead of Christ and act on my behalf…the veil of the Temple has been rent in twain…no more is a sacrificial priesthood required as my Priest continously “offers” His merits to the Father in my behalf…I have no need to undergo any ritual cleansing by the hand of another…Christ has cleansed me…and continues to cleanse me of sin…no human substitute could do more.🤷
 
Publisher said:
I tend to echo your thought…Truth is lived and demonstrated in our lives…what “sacred myths” we use to convey our understanding of The Eternal are vehicles of Truth…not Truth itself. God is Wholly Other and beyond our scope of understanding fully This Side.

Catholicism is not for me. I do not find it compelling. I have no need for a priest to perform rituals for me or in my behalf to receive God’s grace. I have a High Priest in whom I have been baptized into by His Hand…I have a High Priest who is present with the Father to make intercession for me and commune with me without the need for someone else to stand in the stead of Christ and act on my behalf…the veil of the Temple has been rent in twain…no more is a sacrificial priesthood required as my Priest continously “offers” His merits to the Father in my behalf…I have no need to undergo any ritual cleansing by the hand of another…Christ has cleansed me…and continues to cleanse me of sin…no human substitute could do more.🤷
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This means Orthodoxy is also in the same boat for you:p

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
This means Orthodoxy is also in the same boat for you:p

MJ
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I don’t understand your statement…ANY faith tradition that interposes another human being between me and God isn’t a tradition I find in character with the One Mediator and High Priest I already have.

I find the beauty of Orthodoxy and liturgy to be awe inspiring and moving…but it doesn’t fill my heart and soul as the One who love me and gave Himself for me and has removed any and all requirements of rituals and rites performed by a human like myself in order to be accepted by Him.
 
And the more numerous and specific the details (Catholicism certainly leads the pack in that regard), the wrong-er it’s likely to be.
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A great point but I don’t necessarily think this means Catholicism is more likely to be wrong. I do think, however, that it is more likely to be perceived as wrong. I was close to becoming Catholic and one of the things that drove me away was my inability to reconcile a few doctrinal positions of the Catholic Church. It was not my desire to become Diet Hans Kung and reject biblical inerrancy, papal infallibility, etc. and claim to be Catholic. But I agree with the overall point that more and more premises that must be believed (especially ones that were not dogmatized until relatively recently) make it harder to believe Catholicism to be the fullness of faith as it claims.
 
Publisher said:
I don’t understand your statement…ANY faith tradition that interposes another human being between me and God isn’t a tradition I find in character with the One Mediator and High Priest I already have.
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Now I don’t understand.

Why should Jesus choose people at all to do work for him then? Forgiving sins for instance?

MJ
 
batman1973 said:
Are you sure you’re the 1 true church? Because the Mormons would disagree with you they say they are the 1 true church. And they make the same apostolic claims you do, they also claim that Jesus Christ started their church so who’s right you, or them?
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Relativism is what it is called. The same old rants:

My church and faith is all good and so is yours.

Either God revealed absolute Truth or he did not?

What we have here is the classical case of an either/or dichotomy.
 
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