Social Democrats member removed as Mass reader on abortion issue

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A Social Democrats election candidate who was dropped as a Mass reader at a Co Cork church because of the party’s support for repealing the Eighth Amendment on abortion has described a meeting with local Bishop William Crean as fruitful.
Ken Curtin was told last week by the administrator of St Colman’s Cathedral in Cobh, Fr John McCarthy, that he was removed from the rota because of his party’s support for removing the amendment, which gives equal rights to the mother and unborn child.
“[Fr John] said that regardless of my own personal position, either way, as long as I was a member of a party that was a supporter of something against a core Church belief, I couldn’t be a lector at the same time,” said Mr Curtin, who unsuccessfully ran for the party in Cork East in the general election.
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Would that we had bishops here in the U.S. with similar backbones.
 
You’re developing such a healthy loathing for your successive governments,starting to sound like Europeans.
 
I have to say, purely on the fact he is standing for a certain party this is a little harsh. If he has personally expressed support for the policy then fair enough.
 
peter26 said:
I have to say, purely on the fact he is standing for a certain party this is a little harsh. If he has personally expressed support for the policy then fair enough.
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I don’t claim to know Irish politics; if he had expressed opposition to the SD’s policy, would he have been bounced from the party? And if he 1) is a member of a party that espouses a particular policy; and 2) he has not expressed opposition to that policy, is it not a valid assumption that he also espouses the policy? If he actually opposed the policy, his conversation with the Bishop would have been a good time to express that opposition.
 
DaveBj said:
I don’t claim to know Irish politics; if he had expressed opposition to the SD’s policy, would he have been bounced from the party? And if he 1) is a member of a party that espouses a particular policy; and 2) he has not expressed opposition to that policy, is it not a valid assumption that he also espouses the policy? If he actually opposed the policy, his conversation with the Bishop would have been a good time to express that opposition.
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Did you notice this part of the article? Not sure that the Irish bishops have any more backbone than any other bishops.

Mr Curtin, who joined the Social Democrats after leaving Fianna Fáil last year over its approach to the marriage equality referendum, said he got a sense from Bishop Crean “that he was of the view that a person’s membership of a political party was not grounds for excluding a person from having a role in the church”.
**Marriage equality **

Mr Curtin said he did not believe the bishop had a problem with him campaigning for marriage equality and “did not see that as a grounds for removing somebody as a lector in the church, so that was very encouraging to hear”.
 
“[Fr John] said that regardless of my own personal position, either way, as long as I was a member of a party that was a supporter of something against a core Church belief, I couldn’t be a lector at the same time,” said Mr Curtin, who unsuccessfully ran for the party in Cork East in the general election.
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Am I missing something here? Did this individual say he would support abortion or is it simply his party’s stance? No one single political party encompasses all of Catholic teaching, and while abortion is the most important issue, if this individual never expressed he would repeal the abortion laws I fail to see why he should be removed.
 
NewEnglandPriest said:
Am I missing something here? Did this individual say he would support abortion or is it simply his party’s stance? No one single political party encompasses all of Catholic teaching, and while abortion is the most important issue, if this individual never expressed he would repeal the abortion laws I fail to see why he should be removed.
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It’s a bit confusing but various reports on this story claim that it is Ken Curtin himself who is pro-abortion.
 
political pro aborts are usually confusing or ambiguios about their stand on life issues/hence the name pro choice for pro abort.
 
No socialist should be a reader at Mass at all. Socialism is fundamentally opposed to the Church.
 
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