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yayi238
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Reply to jlgodwin:
I don’t agree with the “logical conclusion” to which you came. Why do keep talking about killing?
By Alinsky’s admission he used the back of the yards because it presented the greatest challenge and a fine place to test his theories. And his rules for organizing worked.He created the atmoshere in which that diverse group of people and cultures could get relief and attention.
Alinsky’s goal was to create ways of organizing for power.
Power was the goal.
He wrote a book about how to do it–“Rules for Radicals”. One of the rules he listed: the end justifies almost any means and morality only lies with the winner. He dedicated that book to the one whom he saw as the ultimate dissenter—Lucifer. He viewed Lucifer as successful because he did ultimately achieve his own kingdom. How inspiring!
Alinsky says he never joined any organizations-not even the ones he helped organize because he prized his independence too much. To me that says he viewed the joiners as eventually relinguishing what even the Lord does not deny us–free will. Eventually they just become part of the larger “machine” to which they have attached themselves for what started as a good cause. That seems dehumanizing and manipulative.
ACORN did begin with good intentions and surely did accomplish many positive things for the needy–that is in line with Catholic belief and duty. As can happen with any organization its’ true purpose and aim has mutated. It has become a partisan and corrupt organization who continues to promote its agenda on the backs of the poor and needy. Rerum Novarum is strongly opposed to socialism–too much power to the political community. For some reason CCHD has continued its support way past the time when ACORN mis-deeds were made public. I now question the motives of CCHD. Do they support funding to right to life groups? According to VOCAL the answer is no. Why? Why did CCHD need a secular organization to dispense Catholic funding and grants? Even Bishop Morin cannot assure us that Catholic funds/grants were not embezzled or used for voter fraud yet funds to ACORN continued to increase.
Why is CCHD now promoting JustFaith? Why was Jezreel connected to Call to Action during the very time it and its’ supporters were excommunicated?
I also never said seminaries were corrupt or evil. I did say you are only hearing one side while there–as you stated the particular character.
Justice can only be accomplished when moral laws that govern the human spirit are obeyed.
I hope it is still allowable for a Catholic to question. Why do you seem threatened by my concerns? C’mon man, where is the love?
I don’t agree with the “logical conclusion” to which you came. Why do keep talking about killing?
By Alinsky’s admission he used the back of the yards because it presented the greatest challenge and a fine place to test his theories. And his rules for organizing worked.He created the atmoshere in which that diverse group of people and cultures could get relief and attention.
Alinsky’s goal was to create ways of organizing for power.
Power was the goal.
He wrote a book about how to do it–“Rules for Radicals”. One of the rules he listed: the end justifies almost any means and morality only lies with the winner. He dedicated that book to the one whom he saw as the ultimate dissenter—Lucifer. He viewed Lucifer as successful because he did ultimately achieve his own kingdom. How inspiring!
Alinsky says he never joined any organizations-not even the ones he helped organize because he prized his independence too much. To me that says he viewed the joiners as eventually relinguishing what even the Lord does not deny us–free will. Eventually they just become part of the larger “machine” to which they have attached themselves for what started as a good cause. That seems dehumanizing and manipulative.
ACORN did begin with good intentions and surely did accomplish many positive things for the needy–that is in line with Catholic belief and duty. As can happen with any organization its’ true purpose and aim has mutated. It has become a partisan and corrupt organization who continues to promote its agenda on the backs of the poor and needy. Rerum Novarum is strongly opposed to socialism–too much power to the political community. For some reason CCHD has continued its support way past the time when ACORN mis-deeds were made public. I now question the motives of CCHD. Do they support funding to right to life groups? According to VOCAL the answer is no. Why? Why did CCHD need a secular organization to dispense Catholic funding and grants? Even Bishop Morin cannot assure us that Catholic funds/grants were not embezzled or used for voter fraud yet funds to ACORN continued to increase.
Why is CCHD now promoting JustFaith? Why was Jezreel connected to Call to Action during the very time it and its’ supporters were excommunicated?
I also never said seminaries were corrupt or evil. I did say you are only hearing one side while there–as you stated the particular character.
Justice can only be accomplished when moral laws that govern the human spirit are obeyed.
I hope it is still allowable for a Catholic to question. Why do you seem threatened by my concerns? C’mon man, where is the love?