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TheOne33
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Are Catholics against sociology?
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Tarpeian_Rock
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Huh? I was a Sociology major at my Catholic college. Hopefully this doesn’t mean I’m excommunicated. What is it about Sociology - the study of people in groups - that would make you think that?Are Catholics against sociology?
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TheOne33
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I think I read it on some website. I have to stop believing almost everything I see
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Katholish
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Catholic missionary orders were probably the first real sociologists (in the modern sense).
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Taestron
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This was probably an old hold out from the dominant sociological position of the 1920’s and 30’s. Then, these scientists had a knack for trying to explain everything, including religious belief, with a purely sociological framework. Nowadays most scholars don’t think any one discipline can explain everything, so there is less hostility between sociology and religion. In fact, sociological tools can provide keen insight into hazy passages of Scripture.I think I read it on some website. I have to stop believing almost everything I see
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empther
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Sociology is about the actions of groups of people.
What do inner city blacks to?
What do Iowa farmers do?
What do Navajo Indians do?
Sociology is not supposed to consider the “why” of what people do, that is, the psychology. **Just what they do. **
Sociology is not supposed to consider religion’s affect on people. **Just what they do. **
If sociology is done strictly according to these rules, there should not be any conflict with religion.
What do inner city blacks to?
What do Iowa farmers do?
What do Navajo Indians do?
Sociology is not supposed to consider the “why” of what people do, that is, the psychology. **Just what they do. **
Sociology is not supposed to consider religion’s affect on people. **Just what they do. **
If sociology is done strictly according to these rules, there should not be any conflict with religion.
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Orangebookbag
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No contradiction, no conflict. Sociology can be of interest to the Church in looking back and examining the consequences of post-Vatican II reform, for example.
There are, unfortunately, liberal trends (cultural relativism being one) in many schools of sociology. These are incompatible with Catholic belief.
Here’s an article I found
catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=6325
There are, unfortunately, liberal trends (cultural relativism being one) in many schools of sociology. These are incompatible with Catholic belief.
Here’s an article I found
catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=6325
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shoe
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Department of Sociology
Aquinas Hall, 116
The Catholic University of America
Washington DC 20064
“Founded in 1895, Catholic University’s Sociology Department was the first at an American Catholic university, and is today one of the oldest sociology departments in the United States.”
sociology.cua.edu/
Aquinas Hall, 116
The Catholic University of America
Washington DC 20064
“Founded in 1895, Catholic University’s Sociology Department was the first at an American Catholic university, and is today one of the oldest sociology departments in the United States.”
sociology.cua.edu/
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empther
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No contradiction, no conflict. Sociology can be of interest to the Church in looking back and examining the consequences of post-Vatican II reform, for example.
When somebody talks about what should be done with certain situations,There are, unfortunately, liberal trends (cultural relativism being one) in many schools of sociology. These are incompatible with Catholic belief.
he has moved out of sociology and into politics. That’s not what sociology is supposed to be about.
No opinions, please. Just the facts, Jack !
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levinas12
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Durkheim, who was one of the founders (if not the founder) of modern sociology, believed that social facts were independent, in a certain sense, of the subjective intentions of individuals.
For example, suicide rates in various societies.
The sui generis character of social facts functions almost like a collective form of the Unconscious and, in some respects, reminds one of the Hegelian Absolute Spirit.
Durkheim’s Geist, however, is different than Hegel’s in that it’s lacking in the teleology of progress. With Durkheim, society might be getting worse. But both Durkheim and Hegel assert the primacy of a trans-individual but still human dimension which constrains human behavior.
You could even argue that Durkheim’s sociology represents a secularization of the Catholic concept of the Mystical Body of Christ. In a way analogous to Hegel’s secularization of the Holy Spirit.
It is important to distinguish modern sociology from Catholic theology. Durkheim was an atheist. His view of the sacred was reductionist. Religion for him was necessary only to bind societies together. Faith did not disclose a non-human divilne dimension.
The anti-individualism of Durkheim has dangerous repercussions. It seems to diminish human agency.
It would not be too ridiculous to say that Durkheim had a dark totalitarian side.
For example, suicide rates in various societies.
The sui generis character of social facts functions almost like a collective form of the Unconscious and, in some respects, reminds one of the Hegelian Absolute Spirit.
Durkheim’s Geist, however, is different than Hegel’s in that it’s lacking in the teleology of progress. With Durkheim, society might be getting worse. But both Durkheim and Hegel assert the primacy of a trans-individual but still human dimension which constrains human behavior.
You could even argue that Durkheim’s sociology represents a secularization of the Catholic concept of the Mystical Body of Christ. In a way analogous to Hegel’s secularization of the Holy Spirit.
It is important to distinguish modern sociology from Catholic theology. Durkheim was an atheist. His view of the sacred was reductionist. Religion for him was necessary only to bind societies together. Faith did not disclose a non-human divilne dimension.
The anti-individualism of Durkheim has dangerous repercussions. It seems to diminish human agency.
It would not be too ridiculous to say that Durkheim had a dark totalitarian side.
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