Sola Scriptura--now I get

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St.Eric:
That is my same reaction when people show pictures of the Pope standing in front of a statue and they claim he worshipping it. 🙂
I don’t mind. The pictures were very effective. Demonstrate absurdity by being absurd.

I got a chuckle out of it.:cool:
 
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montanaman:
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Angainor:
The truth can live on without me. It hardly matters if I have certain knowledge of the truth.
And that’s the ultimate defense of the Protestant. Of atheists, or relativists, or anyone who doesn’t want to know the truth, really. That’s what it comes down to with so many of them–what’s true is secondary.
It hardly matters to the great scheme of things if I have certain knowledge of the truth. The Church will keep on keeping on with or without me.

It matters a great deal to me to understand as best I can, the true Truth.
 
JSmitty2005 said:
“I got this pic off the Vatican website. Notice the huge letter “M” signifying John Paul II’s desire to glorify MARY as his god in his pontificate.”

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

The only thing that hurts me is my stomach from laughing so hard!

Well, it didn’t stand for “Moe” though I wouldn’t doubt if he was a Three Stooges fan.
 
I haven’t been in here for a few pages and wanted to ask this…

…Has anyone given any good, plausible arguments for Sola Scriptura?

I’m starting to think Protestants are right about us Catholics, though.
I found this pic of a Catholic school from 1953.
http://online.bcit.ca/sidebars/03january/Community-marbles.jpg

This is a picture of the kids right after they have been given their “Mary Marbles”. For those non-Catholics out there—this is how we get children used to worshipping Mary. We give them each a set of "MM"s–marbles with little graven images of Mary on them and get the unsuspecting little fellas used to kneeling that way. Ask any former Catholic-schooler if he remembers “Mary Marbles” and he’ll almost immediately drop to his knees.
 
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NPS:
I haven’t been in here for a few pages and wanted to ask this…

…Has anyone given any good, plausible arguments for Sola Scriptura?

How about AGAINST Sola Scriptura? Is there anything, any problem, that there isn’t a Bible verse for?
 
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kujo313:
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NPS:
I haven’t been in here for a few pages and wanted to ask this…

…Has anyone
given any good, plausible arguments for Sola Scriptura?

How about AGAINST Sola Scriptura? Is there anything, any problem, that there isn’t a Bible verse for?

Yea, were does it say that your interpretation is infaliible?
 
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kujo313:
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NPS:
I haven’t been in here for a few pages and wanted to ask this…

…Has anyone
given any good, plausible arguments for Sola Scriptura?

How about AGAINST Sola Scriptura? Is there anything, any problem, that there isn’t a Bible verse for?

Is that a “no”?
 
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kujo313:
Well, it didn’t stand for “Moe” though I wouldn’t doubt if he was a Three Stooges fan.
You are a funny guy. “Magisterium” might be a step in the right direction. :hmmm:
 
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kujo313:
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NPS:
I haven’t been in here for a few pages and wanted to ask this…

…Has anyone
given any good, plausible arguments for Sola Scriptura?

How about AGAINST Sola Scriptura? Is there anything, any problem, that there isn’t a Bible verse for?

That is a silly proposition. If I were to give you an example of something that the bible doen’t have a verse for you would most likely counter with “that’s unbiblical” or “that’s not in the bible so we don’t need to worry about it” etc. etc.

How about this. The bible teaches AGAINST sola scriptura. YOu have been shown this a million times but refuse to see it. The bible specifically and literally states that not everything pertaining to the faith is contained in it.
 
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St.Eric:
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kujo313:
That is a silly proposition. If I were to give you an example of something that the bible doen’t have a verse for you would most likely counter with “that’s unbiblical” or “that’s not in the bible so we don’t need to worry about it” etc. etc.

How about this. The bible teaches AGAINST sola scriptura. YOu have been shown this a million times but refuse to see it. The bible specifically and literally states that not everything pertaining to the faith is contained in it.
So it tells you to keep your “traditions”? Does that pertain to NEW “traditions”?
I mean, the Jehovah’s Witnesses have their OWN “tradition”. So do other religions, including catholics.
Sometimes we have to go back to the Bible: “Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth”, “Being Instructed By Living Example”, our “Instruction Book”.

“What DID Jesus say?” “What DID Jesus do?” “What did the disciples do?”

Let’s say a missionary goes to a tribe in Africa and preaches the Gospel there. Until he arrived, the tribesmen would go to a high place to pray to his “god” and have a feast afterward. After his conversion to Christ, the missionary can tell him “Keep your tradition of going to the high place and having a feast, but only do it for Jesus.”
He keeps his “tradition”, but does it for the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
Traditional AND Scriptual.
 
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kujo313:
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St.Eric:
So it tells you to keep your “traditions”? Does that pertain to NEW “traditions”?
I mean, the Jehovah’s Witnesses have their OWN “tradition”. So do other religions, including catholics.
Sometimes we have to go back to the Bible: “Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth”, “Being Instructed By Living Example”, our “Instruction Book”.

“What DID Jesus say?” “What DID Jesus do?” “What did the disciples do?”

Let’s say a missionary goes to a tribe in Africa and preaches the Gospel there. Until he arrived, the tribesmen would go to a high place to pray to his “god” and have a feast afterward. After his conversion to Christ, the missionary can tell him “Keep your tradition of going to the high place and having a feast, but only do it for Jesus.”
He keeps his “tradition”, but does it for the King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
Traditional AND Scriptual.
Why not? You follow the new traditions as set forth by your pastor. Let me take a stab in the dark: Your church probably has a fellowship service of some kind on a wednesday night. You most likley have other bible study groups that regularly meet. And I am almost positive you have some form of church meeting or function on Sunday after your service. No where in the bible are we instructed to have fellowship meetings on a certain day. You most likely have bans for your members on certain activities or substances- like tobacco or dancing (name it) that the bible doesn’t specifically forbid but someone within your church decided that to engage in a certain activity would be a “bad witness” so therefore from this day forward such and such is forbidden - a New tradition established by a man.
 
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St.Eric:
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kujo313:
Why not? You follow the new traditions as set forth by your pastor. Let me take a stab in the dark: Your church probably has a fellowship service of some kind on a wednesday night. You most likley have other bible study groups that regularly meet. And I am almost positive you have some form of church meeting or function on Sunday after your service. No where in the bible are we instructed to have fellowship meetings on a certain day. You most likely have bans for your members on certain activities or substances- like tobacco or dancing (name it) that the bible doesn’t specifically forbid but someone within your church decided that to engage in a certain activity would be a “bad witness” so therefore from this day forward such and such is forbidden - a New tradition established by a man.
Peace.

Do you think that they also ban dancing? And women wearing slacks? And smoking? And drinking alcoholic beverages? Naturally, ALL of these are biblical. :rolleyes: What other judgements are passed on under the disguise of being “scripturally” based?

Peace.
 
Has anyone ever noticed how Protestants use the term “Biblically” with everything? It becomes so ingrained into their thinking and speech patterns that sometimes it creates really absurd constructions, like “I want to make sure I make a Biblically-based cake,” or “I want to make sure that new car’s got Biblical tires.”

I know we have similar quirks. I used to say “Amen” after the Pledge of Allegiance, and at a barbeque, I once accidentally made the sign of the cross with a hot dog in my hand. No, seriously…
 
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montanaman:
I once accidentally made the sign of the cross with a hot dog in my hand. No, seriously…
Peace.

Did you end up splattering the toppings all over your body?

Peace.
 
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jim1130:
Peace.

Did you end up splattering the toppings all over your body?

Peace.
No. I’m a simple hot-dog-topper with slow cross delta-v’s.
 
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montanaman:
No. I’m a simple hot-dog-topper with slow cross delta-v’s.
Peace.

Since you live in the D.C. area (right)…

When I lived in Alexandria, VA (1983-1986), several times I attended a non-denominational Sunday evening service with a college fraternity brother and I will not forget what a bogus experience that was:

(1) The pastor telling the congregation that they were not like “those heathens in Rome who pray to THAT woman”;
(2) The passing around of the bread (?) and wine (?) to simulate the Last Supper and how phony, artificial, contrived, etc. THAT experience was (these people were “pretending” and it meant nothing)
(3) The emphasis on singing and singing loudly. The pastor would even interrupt after one chorus to exhort the congregation to sing even louder.

This same friend set me up with a girl who, it turned out, was a graduate of Bob Jones University (she really thought Bob Jones was worthy of admiration and honor), but since I knew little of Bob Jones University at the time I failed to realize the ignorance that “institution of higher learning” produced.

On the upside, the Catholic Parish in Alexandria I attended, Blessed Sacrament, was pretty cool.

Peace.
 
Blessed Sacrament seems to be one of the “serious seven” (or so) among the orthodox out here. I have yet to go, but it’s on the list. I go to St. Mary’s in Old Town. Great parish, if sadly lacking in Latin Masses.

Occasionally I get talked into going to McLean Bible Church. It’s like a junior megachurch. Ten giant flat-screen monitors with sexy Power Point-like presentations playing on them while the band rocks out. The band, of course, put the drummer where a Catholic altar would be. It’s followed by a hip sermon by a hip pastor. Once he pulled a child up on stage who’d clearly memorized a testimony. Communion? Oh, they get around to it once every couple of months or so.
 
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