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Folks, is any of this even worth a response?
Nope.
So many errors…
Far too many. Howie’s a clever debator. For an obviously intelligent man, he spins a web of ambiguity, never really fully revealing the totality of his belief system (only snippets and clues you have to figure out on your own), then pesters you for not paying attention to him, and his “clear” arguments.

Leave him be, I say. I noticed that the first time I tried to engage him in dialogue. He is subtly condescending, and frustratingly sarcastic (with his trademark 🤷). And what’s worse, he pulls you into this adolescent style of debate, and you follow suit with the bitter sarcasm and condescension. He would be worth the time if he knew how to have a gracious discussion. Consequently, I try to refrain from discourse with him. If he’s the example of Christianity for the flock exposed to him, all is well in Christendom.
 
Can one’s salvation be forfeited? Let’s say by sin? Revelation says of heaven that nothing unclean shall enter it. Sin is certainly uncleanliness. Is our sin automatically forgiven because we are saved? If so why does Jesus give authority to the Apostles to forgive or retain sin? OSAS is another of those johnny come lately false doctrines like sola scriptura.
 
prior to entrance is upon exiting this life so that leads me to believe that one will come to a point of perfection according to your statement.

so one can live a sinless life?
 
prior to entrance is upon exiting this life so that leads me to believe that one will come to a point of perfection according to your statement.

so one can live a sinless life?
**One can be sinless prior to entrance into heaven because with God all things are possible. His whole point in redeeming man is not to end up with the same product He started with but to end up with something molded/changed/transformed into a being somehow greater than He started with. Otherwise He may as well have prevented Adam from sinning or redeemed him immediately after the fall. Here we have the opportunity-grueling at times- to fight the good fight against sin and this fight will be won if eternal life is to be realized. Do you really think God wants sinners in heaven? Do you really think we can even experience God if we’re still sinners-that is, still attached to things other than Him as our highest good? The change He’s drawing us to is the change where we truly recognize for ourselves the perfection of His will; ours becoming one with His. This is a process wherein we simultaneously come to love Him with our whole heart, soul, mind and strength. Easy for Him to accomplish in us, stubborn though we are, but impossible for us to do on our own.

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Salvation can’t be lose, Randy. Those God justified, never become unjustified.
Hi Howie, 🙂

How do persons become temples of the Holy Spirit? Catholics and persons of many other Protestant denominations believe that it is through Baptism. Persons, perhaps like yourself, believe that they become temples of the Holy Spirit by accepting Jesus as their personal Savior.

Do you agree that we must be made disciples of Christ in some way first, in order to become temples of the Holy Spirit and that our temples/souls are where He dwells within (abides within) us? If you do, then the following Scripture passage is relevant to you:

1 Corinthians 3:16-18 “Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are. 18 Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become wise.”

So, Paul is warning the brethren that if they defile their temples by sinning a mortal sin, then they defile their temples and God will destroy them. He warns them to not deceive themselves by believing otherwise. Once we become the temples of the Holy Spirit, He will destroy us if we defile our temples with mortal sin and do not repent before death.

Pax,
SHW
 
Howie’s a clever debator. For an obviously intelligent man, he spins a web of ambiguity, never really fully revealing the totality of his belief system (only snippets and clues you have to figure out on your own), then pesters you for not paying attention to him, and his “clear” arguments.

Leave him be, I say. I noticed that the first time I tried to engage him in dialogue. He is subtly condescending, and frustratingly sarcastic (with his trademark 🤷). And what’s worse, he pulls you into this adolescent style of debate, and you follow suit with the bitter sarcasm and condescension.
According to a former protestant who converted to the Catholic Faith, they’re taught to ‘debate’ as Howie does, as you describe above. It’s no accident I encounter the same debating tactics on other sites. Then, when things get too hot for them, when they have backed themselves into a corner, they do what Howie has done. They leave.

What I wonder about is, being intelligent as most of them are, how they can deceive themselves. Being taught to be basically dishonest, how can they not see that as coming from a fraudulent belief system? The convert I mentioned gets absolutely livid when she talks about it. It took her quite a long time to see the light, however. I guess some never do.

And a happy goodbye to you, too, Howie. If you ever decide you want to enter into a real, honest debate, you are welcome to return.
 
Ferde Rombola:
According to a former protestant who converted to the Catholic Faith, they’re taught to ‘debate’ as Howie does, as you describe above. It’s no accident I encounter the same debating tactics on other sites.
Actually, we don’t teach people to debate, but those of us who belong to Reformed Churches know what we believe, why we believe it, and we’re able to defend it.
Ferde Rombola:
Then, when things get too hot for them, when they have backed themselves into a corner, they do what Howie has done. They leave.
Actually we had city-wide power outage yesterday afternoon, and got our electricity and everything else back about an hour ago.
Ferde Romboal:
What I wonder about is, being intelligent as most of them are, how they can deceive themselves.
None of us thinks we’re deceived, but we do think you are.
Ferde Rombola:
Yes, that’s what you said. What I’m getting at is, how do we know when we are justified?
We know in different ways because we believe different things.

I believe that justification is a declaration of right standing with God, made by God at the time of belief.

How does a Catholic know when he’s justified?
Ferde Rombola:
I think you’re begging the question there. “Justified” means sinless in the eyes of God.
You think that. Can you support that?
Ferde Rombola:
It cannot be that David, have committed a grave sin, was justified in the eyes of God.
Why not?
Ferde Rombola:
It follows that “after God’s own heart” can’t mean justification.
Why not?
Ferde Rombola:
The text doesn’t say David was justified. You added that.
Are there any others on this thread who don’t believe King David was justified, or just Ferde?
Ferde Rombola:
Yes. Sin led him into a graver sin. Sin upon sin. It hardly describes a justified man.
Why not?
Ferde Rombola:
Does God thus punish those who are justified?
No; there’s peace between God and those He’s justified (Rom 5:1); however, He does discipline them .
 
Are there any others on this thread who don’t believe King David was justified, or just Ferde?
David did not remain justified after his sin. But, he repented and confessed his sin and these actions are what re-justified him, according to Scripture.

Ezekiel 18:24 “But when a righteous man turns away from his righteousness and commits iniquity, and does according to all the abominations that the wicked man does, shall he live? All the righteousness which he has done shall not be remembered; because of the unfaithfulness of which he is guilty and the sin which he has committed, because of them he shall die.”

Since David was under the Old Covenant, this applies to him. He lost his righteousness when he committed adultery and murder.

But, what if he repents?

Ezekiel 33:12-22 “Therefore you, O son of man, say to the children of your people: ‘The righteousness of the righteous man shall not deliver him in the day of his transgression; as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall because of it in the day that he turns from his wickedness; nor shall the righteous be able to live because of his righteousness in the day that he sins.’ 13 When I say to the righteous that he shall surely live, but he trusts in his own righteousness and commits iniquity, none of his righteous works shall be remembered; but because of the iniquity that he has committed, he shall die. 14** Again, when I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ if he turns from his sin and does what is lawful and right, 15 if the wicked restores the pledge, gives back what he has stolen, and walks in the statutes of life without committing iniquity, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 16 None of his sins which he has committed shall be remembered against him; he has done what is lawful and right; he shall surely live.**
17 “Yet the children of your people say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ But it is their way which is not fair! 18 When the righteous turns from his righteousness and commits iniquity, he shall die because of it. 19 But when the wicked turns from his wickedness and does what is lawful and right, he shall live because of it. 20 Yet you say, ‘The way of the Lord is not fair.’ O house of Israel, I will judge every one of you according to his own ways.”

David is re-justified after he confesses and repents.

Pax,
SHW
 
Actually, we don’t teach people to debate, but those of us who belong to Reformed Churches know what we believe, why we believe it, and we’re able to defend it.
Hello, Howie. You’re back much sooner than I expected. Does this mean you’re now willing to engage in honest debate? We’ll see.

I didn’t say you’re taught to debate. I said you’re taught how to avoid debate. Not the same thing.

As for defending it, you have given not the slightest hint you are able to defend a single element of your belief.
Actually we had city-wide power outage yesterday afternoon, and got our electricity and everything else back about an hour ago.
Well, so much for honest debate. The quote was in answer to a suggestion that you had left the forum because you had backed yourself into a corner. Now you deny it and say the power was out. Remember this one, Howie?..

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Originally Posted by Randy Carson
Folks, is any of this even worth a response?

So many errors…

[Howie:] Bye.

God never made a promise that was too good to be true.—D.L. Moody"
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That’s you saying goodbye with the waving icon beside it, isn’t it Howie? Do you know what your ‘power outage’ excuse makes you, Howie? Aside from being off to a horrible start with the ‘honest debate’ theme, that is.
None of us thinks we’re deceived, but we do think you are.
Well, none of us thinks we’re deceived, but we KNOW you are. Are you up for some more honest debate, Howie?
We know in different ways because we believe different things.
We know the ‘different ways’ thing is true since each of you has a different answer to every question. We know also you believe in different things. 40,000 different sects, is it? The deceptive non-answers have now got you two laps behind.
I believe that justification is a declaration of right standing with God, made by God at the time of belief.
No, Howie. Justification is a state of being, not a declaration of God. Justification is the turning away from sin to appear “JUSTIFIED” in the eyes of God. My word! I don’t even deal in ‘justification’ and I know more about it than you. Aren’t you embarrassed?

And, since you appear confused about this issue, justifiction can be lost, just as we can turn back toward sin far more easily than we can turn away from sin. A prominent protestant theologian, whose name escapes me at the moment, called your belief system “cheap grace.” I say, the cheapest.
How does a Catholic know when he’s justified?
He doesn’t. He (or she) works out his salvation in fear in trembling day by day, while begging the mercy of God.
You think that. Can you support that?
It’s not necessary to ‘support’ it, Howie. ‘Justification’ means what it means, not what we think it means. I know that’s an alien concept to you, but stick with us and we will lead you to all truth.
That’s the way to answer, isn’t it, Howie? Don’t engage the debate. Just ask another question, exactly as you were taught. Even if it’s an empty question like ‘why not.’ But I’ll answer your evasive question. Here’s what your “why not” referred to:

“Originally Posted by Ferde Rombola
It cannot be that David, having committed a grave sin, was justified in the eyes of God.”

Justification is a turning away from sin. David turned toward sin; not away from it? Are you serious??!!! Do you really think a turning toward sin justifies a man in the eyes of God?! No wonder you’re so confused!!
That’s the way to answer, isn’t it, Howie? Don’t engage the debate. Just ask another question, exactly as you were taught. Even if it’s an empty question like ‘why not.’ But I’ll answer your evasive question. Here’s what your “why not” referred to:

Originally Posted by Ferde Rombola
It follows that “after God’s own heart” can’t mean justification.

It can’t mean ‘justification’ because of David’s proclivity to sin Unless you agree one can lose his justification in the eyes of the Lord, it follows, as I said, that “after God’s own heart” can’t mean justification. You are on record here as denying that one can lose his justification, so, according to your definition, “after God’s own heart” can’t mean justification.
Are there any others on this thread who don’t believe King David was justified, or just Ferde?
That bit of slight of tongue was in reply to the following:

“Originally Posted by Ferde Rombola
The text doesn’t say David was justified. You added that.”

Why did you avoid my charge to you, Howie? The text doesn’t say what you want it to say and I said you added your opinion. Why did you avoid that? Because you have been taught to avoid all questions and allegations you can’t answer. That’s why!
That’s the way to answer, isn’t it, Howie? Don’t engage the debate. Just ask another question, exactly as you were taught. Even if it’s an empty question like ‘why not.’ But I’ll answer your evasive question. Here’s what your “why not” referred to:

“Originally Posted by Ferde Rombola
Yes. Sin led him into a graver sin. Sin upon sin. It hardly describes a justified man.”

Committing sin and persisting in sin means one is under the power of Satan. Is it your contention David’s sin, and his persistence in sin, justified him in the eyes of the Lord??

You have a ways to go, Howie, but for now, say goodbye. And mean it this time. When you are ready for honest and fruitful debate and are interested in learning the truth of the Christian Faith, please come back. You’ll find us willing and able to teach you.
 
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SteveGC:
Far too many. Howie’s a clever debator. For an obviously intelligent man, he spins a web of ambiguity, never really fully revealing the totality of his belief system (only snippets and clues you have to figure out on your own), then pesters you for not paying attention to him, and his “clear” arguments.

Leave him be, I say. I noticed that the first time I tried to engage him in dialogue. He is subtly condescending, and frustratingly sarcastic (with his trademark ). And what’s worse, he pulls you into this adolescent style of debate, and you follow suit with the bitter sarcasm and condescension. He would be worth the time if he knew how to have a gracious discussion. Consequently, I try to refrain from discourse with him. If he’s the example of Christianity for the flock exposed to him, all is well in Christendom.
Randy left because he refused to meet my arguments with anything other than weak appeals to authority. You stopped dealing with me because I exposed the ultimate weakness of the specific argument you made to me. And, neither of you is a stranger to sarcasm and condescension.
 
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SHW:
Hi Howie,

How do persons become temples of the Holy Spirit? Catholics and persons of many other Protestant denominations believe that it is through Baptism. Persons, perhaps like yourself, believe that they become temples of the Holy Spirit by accepting Jesus as their personal Savior.
Scripture says that when one first believes, he is sealed in Christ by the Spirit, and that sealing is forever (Eph 1:13-14; 4:30; Jn 14:16). I believe this refers to the indwelling of the Spirit as well.
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SHW:
Do you agree that we must be made disciples of Christ in some way first, in order to become temples of the Holy Spirit and that our temples/souls are where He dwells within (abides within) us?
It’s my position that one is indwelt by the Spirit when he believes.
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SHW:
So, Paul is warning the brethren that if they defile their temples by sinning a mortal sin, then they defile their temples and God will destroy them. He warns them to not deceive themselves by believing otherwise. Once we become the temples of the Holy Spirit, He will destroy us if we defile our temples with mortal sin and do not repent before death.
Paul says nothing about “mortal sin” in that passage. Paul is talking about one’s theology being built upon the right foundation, that foundation being Christ (v11). As he continues with his analogy, he brings into it those who don’t build on that foundation, referring to their works as wood, hay and straw, and he says that it will be shown in the day that those works were worthless. Nevertheless, Paul continues, the one who is God’s, and has accumulated nothing but empty and worthless works, will be saved (v12-15).
 
Ferde Rombola:
That’s you saying goodbye with the waving icon beside it, isn’t it Howie?
I was waving goodbye to Randy; it’s he who’s left and not returned.
Ferde Rombola:
No, Howie. Justification is a state of being, not a declaration of God. Justification is the turning away from sin to appear “JUSTIFIED” in the eyes of God. My word! I don’t even deal in ‘justification’ and I know more about it than you. Aren’t you embarrassed?
Actually, Ferde, “turning away from sin” is defined by the word “repentance,” or “repent.”

When you sin, Ferde, do you justify of your sin before God? Or, do you repent of your sin before God?
Q. from Howie01 to Ferde Rombola:
How does a Catholic know when he’s justified?
A. from Ferde to Howie01:
He doesn’t.
Justification for the Catholic is conferred at baptism, Ferde: 1992 Justification has been merited for us by the Passion of Christ who offered himself on the cross as a living victim, holy and pleasing to God, and whose blood has become the instrument of atonement for the sins of all men. Justification is conferred in Baptism, the sacrament of faith. It conforms us to the righteousness of God, who makes us inwardly just by the power of his mercy. Its purpose is the glory of God and of Christ, and the gift of eternal life…
Ferde Rombola:
It can’t mean ‘justification’ because of David’s proclivity to sin Unless you agree one can lose his justification in the eyes of the Lord, it follows, as I said, that “after God’s own heart” can’t mean justification. You are on record here as denying that one can lose his justification, so, according to your definition, “after God’s own heart” can’t mean justification.
What I’m saying, Ferde, is David was justified in the sight of the Lord, and he is presently in the presence of the Lord in heaven. Do you disagree?**Psalm 103:8-12

The Lord is compassionate and gracious,
Slow to anger and abounding in lovingkindness.

He will not always strive with us,
Nor will He keep His anger forever.

He has not dealt with us according to our sins,
Nor rewarded us according to our iniquities.

For as high as the heavens are above the earth,
So great is His lovingkindness toward those who fear Him.

As far as the east is from the west,
So far has He removed our transgressions from us.**David understood the graciousness of God toward His own; why don’t you?
Ferde Rombola:
Is it your contention David’s sin, and his persistence in sin, justified him in the eyes of the Lord??
No, that’s not what I’m saying; David was justified by faith before God:**Romans 4:3-8

3 For what does the Scripture say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”

4 Now to the one who works, his wage is not credited as a favor, but as what is due.

5 But to the one who does not work, but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is credited as righteousness,

6 just as David also speaks of the blessing on the man to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:

7 “Blessed are those whose lawless deeds have been forgiven, And whose sins have been covered.

8 “Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will not take into account.”**
 
Randy left because he refused to meet my arguments with anything other than weak appeals to authority. You stopped dealing with me because I exposed the ultimate weakness of the specific argument you made to me. And, neither of you is a stranger to sarcasm and condescension.
I haven’t left, but I’m not going to waste hours of time dealing with your “shotgun” approach to discussion, either.

Rather than spewing dozens of red herrings in a single posting, why not focus on a single issue per thread and deal with them logically one at a time? 🤷

Your claim that the election of Obama due to the votes of Catholics somehow disproves the authority of the Pope is one of the wildest accusations I have seen on this forum in a long, long time.

I’ve been around long enough to recognize that this style of “debate” allows you to vent all your anti-Catholicism in a one-sided monologue to your own satisfaction, but as soon as we begin to pin you down on particulars, you’ll either change the subject or vanish altogether. I suspect that this is one of the reasons this thread has not attracted or maintained the interest of other veteran members of the forum. The style and the rhetoric just gets old after awhile.

In the meantime, if I see a posting of yours that interests me, you’ll know. :tiphat:
 
Actually, we don’t teach people to debate, but those of us who belong to Reformed Churches know what we believe, why we believe it, and we’re able to defend it.
Which doesn’t make it true, of course.

I can’t help but observe that the Mormons and JW’s who come to my door are equally well-schooled in falsehoods, also. 😛
 
Scripture says that when one first believes, he is sealed in Christ by the Spirit, and that sealing is forever (Eph 1:13-14; 4:30; Jn 14:16). I believe this refers to the indwelling of the Spirit as well.

It’s my position that one is indwelt by the Spirit when he believes.

Paul says nothing about “mortal sin” in that passage. Paul is talking about one’s theology being built upon the right foundation, that foundation being Christ (v11). As he continues with his analogy, he brings into it those who don’t build on that foundation, referring to their works as wood, hay and straw, and he says that it will be shown in the day that those works were worthless. Nevertheless, Paul continues, the one who is God’s, and has accumulated nothing but empty and worthless works, will be saved (v12-15).
Hi Howie,

So, how do you think a person defiles his temple? Since Paul states that if people defile their temples, then God will destroy them, I believe him!

1 Corinthians 3:17 “If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.”

So, Paul is warning them to not defile their temples. And, if he is warning them, then it can happen. And, when it does happen, they are no longer justified. So, mortal sin has to be the reason that God destroys them.

Romans 6:16 “Do you not know that to whom you present yourselves slaves to obey, you are that one’s slaves whom you obey, whether of sin leading to death, or of obedience leading to righteousness?”

“Sin leading to death” is spiritual death caused by breaking God’s commandments.

How do we know this?

Matthew 19:16-19 "Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?
17 So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He said to Him, “Which ones?”
Jesus said, “ ‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’ 19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’[d] and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’”

So, if you break His commandments, then you will not enter into eternal life. I find it unusual that an intelligent person like yourself does not figure this out.

The “seal” is an indelible mark received on the soul through both Baptism and Confirmation which cannot be removed even if the person sins and loses his eternal life.

Ephesians 1:13-14 “In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.”

“Sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption” means that as long as the Holy Spirit is living in our souls/temples (abiding in) then He guarantees that we will inherit eternal life. But, if we defile our temples with disobedience to God’s commandments, then He no longer abides in us and therefore no longer guarantees eternal life for us.

Ephesians 4:30 “And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.”

We keep the “seals” of Baptism and Confirmation if we sin mortally because these seals (marks) were supernatural marks and cannot be removed, but the Holy Spirit will be grieved because we will not inherit eternal life (unless we confess and repent before death).

2 Corinthians 1:21-22 “Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God, 22 who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.”

It is the Holy Spirit actually present, living in our hearts/souls/temples, Who is the guarantor of our inheritance. If we defile our temples with sin, then He no longer abides in us so our “guarantor” no longer guarantees eternal life for us but instead destroys us (hellfire). The Holy Spirit must be living in our souls at the time of our deaths in order for us to inherit eternal life.

This is why Hebrews 10:26-27 states: “For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and fiery indignation which will devour the adversaries.”

This is why John states: “If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that. 17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is sin not leading to death.” 1 John 5:16-17

Mortal sins are those which lead to death (spiritual death) but venial sins do not cause spiritual death. Venial sins can weaken a person and make him more susceptible to committing mortal sins, however.

Paul used his epistles to admonish the brethren to not sin because of its consequences. Once reconciled to God through Baptism, it is important to continue in the faith and not lose your inheritance through sin.

Acts 11:23 “When he came and had seen the grace of God, he was glad, and encouraged them all that with purpose of heart they should continue with the Lord.”

Colossians 1:21-23 “And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23** if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard**, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.”

OSAS is not scriptural. We must endure in the faith, obeying God’s commandments and producing good fruit, in order to enter eternal life.

1 John 5:13 “These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.”

Revelation 2:10 “Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.”

Inheriting eternal life is conditional on our own actions.
 
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SHW:
So, how do you think a person defiles his temple? Since Paul states that if people defile their temples, then God will destroy them, I believe him!

So, Paul is warning them to not defile their temples. And, if he is warning them, then it can happen. And, when it does happen, they are no longer justified. So, mortal sin has to be the reason that God destroys them.
At the end of v16, “God dwells in you," you is plural, so Paul’s not speaking individually, but collectively—the Church.
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SHW:
So, if you break His commandments, then you will not enter into eternal life (Mt 19:16ff). I find it unusual that an intelligent person like yourself does not figure this out.
I’ve been through that passage with you, in depth, on another thread. I don’t see any point in going through it again.
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SHW:
The “seal” is an indelible mark received on the soul through both Baptism and Confirmation which cannot be removed even if the person sins and loses his eternal life.
In fact, there’s no mention of baptism in the passage speaking to the sealing of the Spirit, and there’s certainly no mention of “confirmation” any place in scripture of which I’m aware.

SHW said:
“Sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption” means that as long as the Holy Spirit is living in our souls/temples (abiding in) then He guarantees that we will inherit eternal life.

The sealing of the Spirit is permanent in nature—for the day of redemption. (cf Jn 14:16)
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SHW:
Mortal sins are those which lead to death (spiritual death) but venial sins do not cause spiritual death. Venial sins can weaken a person and make him more susceptible to committing mortal sins, however.
The wages of sin is death, Paul makes no distinction, as Catholics do, between those “respectable” venial sins, and mortal sins (Rom 6:23).
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SHW:
Colossians 1:21-23 “And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled 22 in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight— 23 if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded and steadfast, and are not moved away from the hope of the gospel which you heard, which was preached to every creature under heaven, of which I, Paul, became a minister.”

OSAS is not scriptural. We must endure in the faith, obeying God’s commandments and producing good fruit, in order to enter eternal life.
Endurance, or perseverance in the faith is part and parcel of biblical election, as it is with the de fide Catholic doctrine of predestination, which is OSAS as well.

SHW said:
Inheriting eternal life is conditional on our own actions.

In spite of all the denials to the contrary, Catholic salvation by works always makes itself apparent in conversation.
 
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