Some 35,000 Turks converted from Islam to Christianity last year

[paarsurrey]

I’m not exactly sure of Ahmadi’s claim of “bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics”. So far his/her approach as been to call Christianity a false religion. Does not seem that this approach will bridge any gaps.

Hi
I never said that Christianity is a false religion if the Christians follow JesusYeshuaIssa whom I love.I could never say that JesusYeshuaIssa was a untruthful person or his religion is false. I do know however that due to some shadowy deviations of Paul he lead people astray from the path JesusYeshuaIssa had followed. That is not difficult to understand, as soon as my Christian friends make research they would come to know that Jesus never died on Cross, though he was injured on it , yet he survived, he was treated in the tomb, he recovered and got cured, met people and then set off to far off lands with his mother Mary to spread his teachings among the lost ten tribes of Israel. There he died respectfully and is buried in India. This is a hard fact which could be very easily understood.This way all the deviation made by Paul would be corrected and true personality of Jesus would come into light and things would get corrected. May GodAllahYHWH do it at the earliest.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics

 

[exoflare]

I do know however that due to some shadowy deviations of Paul he lead people astray from the path JesusYeshuaIssa had followed.

LOL typical Muslim revisionist history… they have some little canned excuse or scapegoat for everything.

 

[Sixtus]

as soon as my Christian friends make research they would come to know that Jesus never died on Cross, though he was injured on it , yet he survived, he was treated in the tomb

Then you do not understand either eye-witness testimony of His wounds, standards of medical intervention 2000-years ago, or Roman exactness in death by crucifixion.

Eye witness testimony was that:

1. Pontious Pilate wanted nothing to do with His death, Mt 27:24 having Him severely flogged to appease the crowd, thereby sparing Him from crucifixion His flogging was so severe, the Romans feared He would die of exhaustion enroute to Calvary, thereby cheating execution, hence why they forced Simon of Cyrene to help Lk 23: 26; Mk 14:21 even tells you who he was and his family which adds credence to the fact!
2. A Roman Officer in charge of execution would himself have been executed if a condemned was allowed to survive thereby cheating death. The Roman Officer in Charge of the execution party saw it all, he confirmed His death Lk23:47
3. To ensure He did not survive, the Romans broke the legs of the two executed with Him but on seeing He was already dead, peirced his side with a lance Jn 19:34.
4. From the wound flowed ‘blood and water’ Jn 19:34 The water we now know was plasma. That is blood with out red and white blood cells. When a body is depleted of blood, out flows plasma, the cause of death is heart failure, nothing short of modern medical intervention, complete and instant transfusion supported by the best anticeptics, and cardiac arrest procedure supported by Crash technology, the patient already dead, would not survive. Even by today’s standards, the odds are heavily against survival. 2000-years ago without modern medicine and instant compatible blood transfusion, He had zero chance!
5. Instant medical intervention was not possible, they had first to remove the corpus from the Cross, then carry it to the tomb, by which time the brain would have suffered irreperable brain damage.
6. John adds at 19:34 that’ this was eyewitnessed by one who can be trusted’ 19:37
7. Jesus ascended in order that we may receive the Advocate.Jn 16:13
8. He instructed His apostles to remain in Jerusalem until the Advocate came Acts 1:8

In this wretched unworthy sin sodden scarlet flesh of mine this poor sinner has witnessed a physical encounter with the Advocate of Whom Christ spoke

 

[BelFarfalla]

Hi
I never said that Christianity is a false religion …

While you may not use exactly the words that “Christianity is a false religion”, the words you use are stating that you believe that Christianity is false. Christians are by definition those who believe in the Trinity, we believe that Jesus was a manifestation of God, that He died on the cross and was resurrected. If we don’t believe these things we are not Christians. You believe that all of those things are false religion.
Your entire post (below) basically calls Christianity a lie. You cannot prove any of the things you are saying. There is no historical record of your claims. But you still come here trying to convert Catholics to your version of Islam, which is not even really Islam but instead considered a heresy by Muslims.

Hi
I never said that Christianity is a false religion if the Christians follow JesusYeshuaIssa whom I love.I could never say that JesusYeshuaIssa was a untruthful person or his religion is false. I do know however that due to some shadowy deviations of Paul he lead people astray from the path JesusYeshuaIssa had followed. That is not difficult to understand, as soon as my Christian friends make research they would come to know that Jesus never died on Cross, though he was injured on it , yet he survived, he was treated in the tomb, he recovered and got cured, met people and then set off to far off lands with his mother Mary to spread his teachings among the lost ten tribes of Israel. There he died respectfully and is buried in India. This is a hard fact which could be very easily understood.This way all the deviation made by Paul would be corrected and true personality of Jesus would come into light and things would get corrected. May GodAllahYHWH do it at the earliest.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics

 

[paarsurrey]

Christians are by definition those who believe in the Trinity, we believe that Jesus was a manifestation of God, that He died on the cross and was resurrected. If we don’t believe these things we are not Christians.

Hi
I make a distinction between the followers of JesusYeshuaIssa and followers of Paul, the confirmed enemy of JesusYeshuaIssa.The definition you have provided above is of a Paulist, in my opinion, and is not of a follower of JesusYeshuaIssa. I am a true follower of JesusYeshuaIssa but since I have submitted, in my opinion, to the truth of GodAllahYHWH so I call myself an Ahmadi Muslim. For further study you may if you like read the following article, no compulsion :ointmentofjesus.org/
May GodAllahYHWH bless you!
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics

 

[exoflare]

Hi
I make a distinction between the followers of JesusYeshuaIssa and followers of Paul, the confirmed enemy of JesusYeshuaIssa.The definition you have provided above is of a Paulist, in my opinion, and is not of a follower of JesusYeshuaIssa. I am a true follower of JesusYeshuaIssa but since I have submitted, in my opinion, to the truth of GodAllahYHWH so I call myself an Ahmadi Muslim. For further study you may if you like read the following article, no compulsion :ointmentofjesus.org/
May GodAllahYHWH bless you!
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics

That link you gave doesn’t mention any crackpot theories about Paul, but nonetheless I’d really like to hear how you arrived at your conclusion of how Paul “distorted” Christianity… other than that it’s a quick way to discount everything Jesus taught.

 

[Sixtus]

I am an Ahmadi - a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics

Then let us pray to our God/Allah and together, thank the Divine Being for each other and say Amen and so it be.

 

[paarsurrey]

That link you gave doesn’t mention any crackpot theories about Paul, but nonetheless I’d really like to hear how you arrived at your conclusion of how Paul “distorted” Christianity… other than that it’s a quick way to discount everything Jesus taught.

Hi
The PromisedMessiahImamMahdi 1835-1908, or the PromisedReformer-ofall-Nations has mentioned about Paul in many of his books which are in Urdu language.
These days a ChristianPriest has brought these thing to light. I give here the link of his article :titled “The Pauline Conspiracy” by A. Victor Garaffa:
comparative-religion.com/…ne_conspiracy/
Please read it, it is an interesting read and is very reasonable and rational.
I respect your religion,please.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics

 

[Sixtus]

exoflare posted:

I’d really like to hear how you arrived at your conclusion of how Paul “distorted” Christianity…

I think St Paul was a great advocate and Apostle. He was also a very educated man lawyer and had a great and profound knowldge of Jewish law. He appeared to be like St John the Evangelist in that he was a Reflector, having deeply thought about what Jesus had said, and related it to the real world. His interpretations were indeed profound and awesome. But I think that was just a melting pot of Jesus teaching, Paul’s wisdom and knowldge blended with the light of the Holy Spirit.

It begs belief that Paul could be criticised. But there you are. They criticised Christ. So why not Paul?After all, Christ did predict it. Jn 15:20

There are plenty of bizare sects who also lay claim to the same idea, not least Dan Brown author of The [Leonardo] Da Vinci Code and his crackpot followers