Some Muslims Beat Pastor After Attending Church

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Han Ji Hye:
Christians who attack muslims in the US or other secular country considered as a crime. They go to jail. Unlike Muslims burned and closed down churches, they do not go to jail… they go to heaven. and plese STOP fallacies tu quoque!!
They go to heaven for attacking churches? Prove it.
 
Allah requires a sacrifice but it is the person who gives their life (seemily by denying others theirs) and then the person has earned their reward.
]Christ asks one to acknowledge His sacrifice for them, by offering their life back to Him through serving others and He prepares a place in Heaven for them.
"Verily Man is in loss,

Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy" (The Holy Quran, chapter 103).
 
Faith101 said:
"Verily Man is in loss,

Except such as have Faith, and do righteous deeds, and (join together) in the mutual teaching of Truth, and of Patience and Constancy" (The Holy Quran, chapter 103).

please give examples of righteous deeds, weve seen a few in the news. And before you say those were not rightous then answer why those deeds were not spoken out about and condemmed as not righteous so we would be clear on the matter. There is a muslim in our city paper that writes a editioral about that its wrrong but he doesnt seem to drum up support.

(Christians do speak out against each other it may be ugly but at least it keeps everyone on some sort of a path. )

And one last thing Jesus bowed to Muhammad, what? where did that happen, :confused: seems to me that at the Name of Christ every knee would bow.
 
Faith, if you understood the Trinity and the Incarnation it makes sense. But it is hard for Muslims. For example we believe a martyr is someone who gives their life for Christ without fighting. You believe a martyr is someone who blows up a pizza joint and kills innocent teenagers. That’s pretty hard for us to understand. But I think it sums up the difference in religions.
 
Amen, Alleluia!
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cestusdei:
Faith, if you understood the Trinity and the Incarnation it makes sense. But it is hard for Muslims. For example we believe a martyr is someone who gives their life for Christ without fighting. You believe a martyr is someone who blows up a pizza joint and kills innocent teenagers. That’s pretty hard for us to understand. But I think it sums up the difference in religions.
 
Amen, Alleluia!
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cestusdei:
Faith, if you understood the Trinity and the Incarnation it makes sense. But it is hard for Muslims. For example we believe a martyr is someone who gives their life for Christ without fighting. You believe a martyr is someone who blows up a pizza joint and kills innocent teenagers. That’s pretty hard for us to understand. But I think it sums up the difference in religions.
 
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Faith101:
Jesus worshipped Allah, prostrated to Him, prayed to Him.

You worship Jesus.

Unless Allah worships Himself…then your statment doesnt make sense.
Thats why Muslims and Christians do not worship the same God. 👍
 
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Faith101:
They go to heaven for attacking churches? Prove it.
lol. They believe go to heaven thats why they dare to attack other faiths. If your allah teaches you to love your ‘enemy’ then they wouldnt attack churches. get it? 😛
 
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Faith101:
Who is khaled…i think you meant to say khalaas…lol.
dont you know khaled is slang for khalaas? lol…
Which Muslims on the street? You mean the Muslims who are being oppressed and kicked out of their homelands and have their families killed in front of their eyes? *those * Muslims?
Who kicked those people out of their homeland? what are you doing there in the US now? being kicked out? and living in a better world? :confused: so ungrateful
Like it or not, your brothers in faith (cross-wearing, Bible carrying people) are attacking others just because they look different and have different beliefs. No one ever says Christianity is at fault for their actions.
LOL… if thats truely happened… thats an impact from what your brothers in faith were doing in muslims country. 😛 , have a mirror yourself, will ya!! 😃
 
Han Ji Hye:
lol. They believe go to heaven thats why they dare to attack other faiths. If your allah teaches you to love your ‘enemy’ then they wouldnt attack churches. get it? 😛
No, i dont get it.

You made an accusation, now prove that it is true.
 
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Faith101:
No, i dont get it.

You made an accusation, now prove that it is true.
Few examples:

Quran-9:111: Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law…

Quran-2:216: Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you.

Sahi Bukhari# 35, page-102:

Prophet Muhammad (sa) narrated, “ He who is out at war Allah becomes the protector for him. Because, he only joins the fight when he put his solid belief upon Allah and his Apostle. Allah provides him wealth and much booty (Maal-e-goni-mat) with which he returns home. Or, place him in the paradise by making him a Shaheed (martyrdom).

Sahi Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 48:

Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, “A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah’s Cause in the afternoon or in the forenoon is better than all the world and whatever is in it. A place in Paradise as small as the bow or lash of one of you is better than all the world and whatever is in it. And if a houri from Paradise appeared to the people of the earth, she would fill the space between Heaven and the Earth with light and pleasant scent and her head cover is better than the world and whatever is in it.”

Houri 👍

This is indeed, anti-Jesus teachings.
 
Han Ji Hye:
hey… Thats good example for the so called religion of peace. Knife with peace…hmm… interesting!
we cannot let a few individuals give us a misrepresentation of a religion.

if we did than i’m sure many would want nothing to do with Christianity given the words of pat robertson (sp?).

and not all “Christians” are good Christians either. So called Christians do the same thing, crime is an aspect of every culture and yes even relgion, or at least there will be those there that claim the religion, but don’t represent it at all.

so quick are we to judge.
 
ReflectHim said:
we cannot let a few individuals give us a misrepresentation of a religion.
the problem is that they are no longer a few, and these “few” base their behaviours on the quran.
if we did than i’m sure many would want nothing to do with Christianity given the words of pat robertson (sp?).
nothing of the like if based on Jesus’ teachings; thats the difference.
and not all “Christians” are good Christians either. So called Christians do the same thing, crime is an aspect of every culture and yes even relgion, or at least there will be those there that claim the religion, but don’t represent it at all.
sure and Jesus answered these kind of “christians”.
 
inJESUS said:
Few examples:
Quran-9:111: Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise
): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law…

Quran-2:216: Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you.

Yes, when we are oppressed and driven out of our land, we fight…we kill, and we may die. We do not transgress, as Allah does not love the transgressors.

What does this have to do with the accusation?
This is indeed, anti-Jesus teachings
According to who? These teachings are in line with what Allah has taught us from the time of Abraham.

If anyone lets people expell them from their land, oppress them, and murder them…and they just sit there watching… they would be extinct.

War is not the state that we would like to be in, but sometimes we have to stand our ground and fight.

“Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you”
 
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inJESUS:
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ReflectHim:
did Jesus ask them to? or is it because humans are sinful and should repent?
no, no more than he told the muslims to do what they did.

but we can all make outrageous claims. but just what the muslims did, so can christians, and make claims that God told me to do it. isn’t that what Andrea Yates did, ooo and she was a Christian too.
 
Faith101 said:
Yes, when we are oppressed and driven out of our land, we fight…we kill, and we may die. We do not transgress, as Allah does not love the transgressors.
What does this have to do with the accusation?

the accusation is that muslims are REWARDED IN HEAVEN if they kill in the name of allah…Christians do not have such “rewards” if they kill…we SHOULD not kill…
According to who? These teachings are in line with what Allah has taught us from the time of Abraham.
really? was Moses or Abraham promised Houri if they kill for God?
If anyone lets people expell them from their land, oppress them, and murder them…and they just sit there watching… they would be extinct.
am talking about the “reward” you get as pointed out…and it seems that muslims did not understand “when” they should go for Jihad…the message wasnt that clear…
War is not the state that we would like to be in, but sometimes we have to stand our ground and fight.
indeed but thats not what mohammad did; mohammad fought many “offensive” wars, not “defensive”…so if the model is like this, no wonder muslims cannot differentiate.
“Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you”
this is not described to us by God…to us, fighting is a sin, even if it were defensive…(but we will have to choose between fighting back or being killed) coz war is caused by sin not by God…
 
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