Son getting married -- need advice

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Hello all,
Our youngest son is getting married in March. He is 25 and so is his fiancé. They both live in another city about 100 miles away. He has a good job and she is also employed, so they are financially and otherwise independent from us. They are both Christians and met at a Bible study at their church.

Issue causing concern:
My wife gets upset at times at being shut out of the wedding preparation plans for the most part, even though we are helping financially with some of it. We offered to help lower their financial burden and they accepted – no strings attached. Her family is more financially challenged than we are, according to our son, so we wanted to do that for them as a wedding gift.

I am not bothered by the lack of involvement because our son and his fiancé are both adults and they have the right to plan their wedding and reception as they see fit, as far as I am concerned. The way I see it, if they ask for my advice, I will give it to them. If not, I will keep quiet and stay out of it. However, my wife sees it differently. She sees how the wedding turns out to be a reflection on her, at least to a certain extent.

She considers certain things more important than they do. For example, she is big on having boutonnieres and corsages for the bridesmaids and groomsmen, where they weren’t planning on having them as a cost saving measure, except for her wedding bouquet.

Another thing was my wife asked our son’s fiancé if she could have her hair stylist double check my wife’s hair before the wedding and our son’s finance said her stylist would be focusing on her and her bridesmaids and mother and asked if my wife could find someone else to do her hair. That upset my wife a little. She felt slighted by that, but luckily my wife’s best friend has a niece who lives in that city who agreed to do my wife’s hair on the wedding day.

When our son calls us once or twice a week just to say hi and see how we are doing, my wife will often offer unsolicited advice to him, which sometimes prompts polite disagreements. Recent topics of discussion included seating arrangements for our relatives at the reception dinner and things that I consider to be so minor that i don’t even think about them. I plan on walking around and greeting people a lot during the reception so I truly don’t care where they seat me to start off with, but those kind of things matter more to my wife.

Do you have any advice on how to help my wife feel respected and honored although she can’t participate as much as she would like in my son’s wedding plans?

For me, this whole thing is starting to take some of the joy out of what is supposed to be a special and joyous time in our lives. I want our son and his future wife to look back on their wedding day as a time of joy and celebration, and not as a time of disagreement on how the wedding details should be handled. Any advice would be appreciated.
 
Your wife is waaaay out of line. The traditional responsibility of the groom’s mother is to show up in an ugly dress and smile.

Corsages!!! GAH!!!

If your wife won’t back off, you may need to tell her that you need to go to counseling if she is struggling with this.

This is the mom version of planning for the wedding, not the marriage–she needs to think about how she is doing is going to affect her relationship with the young couple (and their future children!) going forward.

Also, how about planning a little get away with her to get her mind off of this?
 
You’re not a weird family, don’t worry.

Weddings are an emotional time. My husband and I put on 3 weddings with 3 daughters. The first one had the most challenges because it was our first time. We wanted it to be a formal ‘adult only’. The groom’s mom snuck in a 3 yr. old anyway. I was miffed. But it wasn’t a big deal and it really didn’t matter. And the wedding was fabulous. By the time we had our last wedding a year ago, we had 5 grandchildren in the wedding! And it was wonderful.

All that to say expectations change. With our first wedding, I was in charge of everything because our daughter was finishing up school out of state. By the last wedding, our daughter was living on her own in another city and she had her own ideas about things.

If I had to do another wedding, I’d like to be the mom of the groom and just wear beige and keep my mouth shut! It’s a lot of work putting on a wedding.

So to your wife I would tell her to let go. Let the bride and groom do it their way. And be sure to compliment them on how lovely everything is, especially the bride. DO NOT give advice unless they ask you. The wedding is only one day and she will be your daughter in law for the rest of your life (hopefully). You don’t want to have them dreading visiting you. And when grandchildren come along, you will have a little taste of heaven on earth!

Congratulations!
 
The traditional responsibility of the groom’s mother is to show up in an ugly dress and smile.
This made me LOL.

OP: First off gratz! Hope they have a long and wonderful marriage. As for your wife, maybe talk to you son to see if there is a little something she can do. Like food prep or something. If no just support her and them both. Once again gratz!
 
What is more important to your wife?

That the bridal party had sufficient flowers or making your future daughter in law feel accepted into your family?

Also, why would your wife feel slighted about the hairdresser? Could she just ask for a recommendation?

I really think the wedding is just one day. Your relationship with this woman will be forever.
 
You’re not a weird family, don’t worry.

Weddings are an emotional time. My husband and I put on 3 weddings with 3 daughters. The first one had the most challenges because it was our first time. We wanted it to be a formal ‘adult only’. The groom’s mom snuck in a 3 yr. old anyway. I was miffed. But it wasn’t a big deal and it really didn’t matter. And the wedding was fabulous. By the time we had our last wedding a year ago, we had 5 grandchildren in the wedding! And it was wonderful.

All that to say expectations change. With our first wedding, I was in charge of everything because our daughter was finishing up school out of state. By the last wedding, our daughter was living on her own in another city and she had her own ideas about things.

If I had to do another wedding, I’d like to be the mom of the groom and just wear beige and keep my mouth shut! It’s a lot of work putting on a wedding.

So to your wife I would tell her to let go. Let the bride and groom do it their way. And be sure to compliment them on how lovely everything is, especially the bride. DO NOT give advice unless they ask you. The wedding is only one day and she will be your daughter in law for the rest of your life (hopefully). You don’t want to have them dreading visiting you. And when grandchildren come along, you will have a little taste of heaven on earth!

Congratulations!
Hi newf,
Thanks for the reassurance that weddings can be an emotional time and for the added perspective from someone who has been there and done that.

Also, congratulations on your fine daughters, their weddings, and all the grandchildren. That is definitely the part I am looking forward to is the grandkids, and I know my wife feels the same way.
 
What is more important to your wife?

That the bridal party had sufficient flowers or making your future daughter in law feel accepted into your family?

Also, why would your wife feel slighted about the hairdresser? Could she just ask for a recommendation?

I really think the wedding is just one day. Your relationship with this woman will be forever.
Good points. I agree that the most important thing is the relationship that is established after the wedding is over.

I think deep down my wife wanted to have at least one girl to be able to experience what it’s like to be the bride’s mother on her wedding day but we had just two kids – both boys. That may be part of it.
 
What is it about weddings that brings out narcissistic characteristics in people. What other sacraments do that!?
 
This made me LOL.

OP: First off gratz! Hope they have a long and wonderful marriage. As for your wife, maybe talk to you son to see if there is a little something she can do. Like food prep or something. If no just support her and them both. Once again gratz!
Good idea, NM505StKate;. 👍

I will be seeing my son without my wife present in about a week. I think I will recommend some kind of role for my wife that will help her feel like she’s more than just “showing up in an ugly dress and smiling”, as Xantippe said. Perhaps she could be the person in charge of flowers and flower arrangements or something like that. I will mention it to my son, but in the end it’s up to them to decide, and they might already have all the bases covered, but I will ask to see if they could involve her in some meaningful way.

For me, I’m ok with just sitting there in my seat wearing my tux that makes me look like a penguin. 🙂
 
I’m sure you realize this, but your wife is being unreasonable.

When I was married, my bridesmaids and I all had our hair and makeup done together. This was something that had to be arranged ahead of time; the stylist needed to know how many people would be there so that she could plan her time accordingly. Your son’s fiancee probably already has this arranged, and it might not even be possible to add another person. It’s probably also a bonding thing between her and her friends, that would be made awkward by her mother-in-law joining in. I think a more appropriate request by your wife might have been “Do you have any recommendations for someone who could do my hair for the wedding?” rather than putting her on the spot. That way, fiancee might have asked her to join them if she wanted to, or suggested someone else if she didn’t, without feeling put upon.

I’ve never seen bridesmaids who wore corsages. Issues like that, and the seating arrangements, are not up to anyone but the couple unless they ask for advice. I would just talk to your wife about how she sees her future relationship with them, and remind her gently that she doesn’t want to be the stereotypical mother-in-law. Did your mother insert herself into your wedding? If she did, remind her of that, and if she didn’t, remind her of that. It sounds like your son and his fiancee are doing a great job at setting boundaries. People who are good at setting boundaries pull away more and more from the people who cross them. I’m sure that’s not what anyone wants.

Instead of offering unsolicited advice, maybe you could encourage your wife to just ask whether there is anything they need help with. If you are paying for the rehearsal dinner, maybe there is some way she can help with that. I know that I would have responded much more favorably to an offer for help than to “advice” that I didn’t ask for and didn’t want.
 
Good idea, NM505StKate;. 👍

I will be seeing my son without my wife present in about a week. I think I will recommend some kind of role for my wife that will help her feel like she’s more than just “showing up in an ugly dress and smiling”, as Xantippe said. Perhaps she could be the person in charge of flowers and flower arrangements or something like that. I will mention it to my son, but in the end it’s up to them to decide, and they might already have all the bases covered, but I will ask to see if they could involve her in some meaningful way.

For me, I’m ok with just sitting there in my seat wearing my tux that makes me look like a penguin. 🙂
Sir you are Awesome!
 
Thanks for the reply, (name removed by moderator). I think you’re right.

I am not proud of this, but after hearing a few more of her most recent concerns about the wedding plans, I told her I wished our son and his fiancé would just go and elope somewhere – probably not my finest hour as a husband but it reflected my frustration at her attitude.
 
My daughter lives 200 miles away … she met someone and they became engaged … we wanted to help them, so we gave them some money … but we had absolutely nothing to do with the preparation for the wedding … I did however throw her her shower … that made me feel good.

My best advice is to tell your wife to be happy about the wedding and also be happy that they are being so responsible in doing the preparation … there really is no reason for her to be upset.

When your son’s finance said that she already had made the plans for the hair stylist, that wasn’t nice not to include your wife … but one thing you will have to get accustomed to is ignoring little issues that seem unfair … they come up once the children get married … and the best thing to do is to ignore them … you don’t want to look like the in-laws that are always causing problems.
 
I’m sure you realize this, but your wife is being unreasonable.

When I was married, my bridesmaids and I all had our hair and makeup done together. This was something that had to be arranged ahead of time; the stylist needed to know how many people would be there so that she could plan her time accordingly. Your son’s fiancee probably already has this arranged, and it might not even be possible to add another person. It’s probably also a bonding thing between her and her friends, that would be made awkward by her mother-in-law joining in. I think a more appropriate request by your wife might have been “Do you have any recommendations for someone who could do my hair for the wedding?” rather than putting her on the spot. That way, fiancee might have asked her to join them if she wanted to, or suggested someone else if she didn’t, without feeling put upon.

I’ve never seen bridesmaids who wore corsages. Issues like that, and the seating arrangements, are not up to anyone but the couple unless they ask for advice. I would just talk to your wife about how she sees her future relationship with them, and remind her gently that she doesn’t want to be the stereotypical mother-in-law. Did your mother insert herself into your wedding? If she did, remind her of that, and if she didn’t, remind her of that. It sounds like your son and his fiancee are doing a great job at setting boundaries. People who are good at setting boundaries pull away more and more from the people who cross them. I’m sure that’s not what anyone wants.

Instead of offering unsolicited advice, maybe you could encourage your wife to just ask whether there is anything they need help with. If you are paying for the rehearsal dinner, maybe there is some way she can help with that. I know that I would have responded much more favorably to an offer for help than to “advice” that I didn’t ask for and didn’t want.
Thanks. I like your advice and perspective, Lorelei12. As for my mother, she stayed in the background at our wedding and didn’t make a fuss over anything, just like I want to do at my son’s wedding. She was there for me before the wedding and I still have a few pictures of us together before the wedding. She has long since passed away and is with the Lord now, so I cherish those pictures a lot.

I might want to give a small toast at the reception, but that’s about it. Other than that and greeting guests, I’m good to go.
 
My daughter lives 200 miles away … she met someone and they became engaged … we wanted to help them, so we gave them some money … but we had absolutely nothing to do with the preparation for the wedding … I did however throw her her shower … that made me feel good.

My best advice is to tell your wife to be happy about the wedding and also be happy that they are being so responsible in doing the preparation … there really is no reason for her to be upset.

When your son’s finance said that she already had made the plans for the hair stylist, that wasn’t nice not to include your wife … but one thing you will have to get accustomed to is ignoring little issues that seem unfair … they come up once the children get married … and the best thing to do is to ignore them … you don’t want to look like the in-laws that are always causing problems./QUOTE]

I totally agree with what I highlighted in red. Thanks, Katherine438.
 
Love it! 😃

We came very close to this. The only reason we had any food other than the sheet cake was that my mother insisted. Bless her - she turned out a good spread.

Being older than the OP’s son (I was 33, husband 51), we paid for everything ourselves, and chose a simple, rather unconventional wedding.

When my daughter got married at 25, I had no say in anything. I was relieved - I’m not good at that stuff. She also chose a simple wedding.
 
How about clothing made of camel’s hair with a leather belt and serve only locusts and wild honey. 🙂
 
I noticed that you said you offered them help financially with “no strings attached”… does your wife see it that way? Maybe she feels like she has some say in how things are being done because of the money part. Have you asked her about that?

Either way, don’t let this kill the fun, marriage is a beautiful thing!
 
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