Son wants to wear chapel veil

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OP, just use the word that has been forgotten:
No.

Buy him some Catholic picture books and a special tote bag for them. They are only taken to mass and he can quietly look at them there. I don’t know about a tie exciting a 6 year old, but let him choose a new special dress up shirt or two for mass only.
 
I doubt this source in general. Maybe some people think it belongs in the “good old times” to wear an extra layer of modest dress, but this sounds to me more like a modernist view on reinventing “traditional” values. I personally have no problems with veils in general and have some nice ones, but I won´t go so far and say they are “traditional”.
 
Well, but boys and men with headcoverings indoor are still seen as offence. It´s not usual and seen as disresectful. I won´t let him, otherwise his teachers will have the problem telling him to take it off in class.
 
I have searched for it and I’m getting results for the general topic but not the be claim that Padre Pio mandated veils.
 
Or maybe a nice crucifix on a chain to wear outside of his shirt for Mass…
 
The presence of that sign has been debunked.
“…I reached out to San Giovanni Rotondo, Padre Pio’s monastery, in hopes of finding answers….

I could find no proof that Padre Pio ever had a sign on his door that said, “By Padre Pio’s explicit wish, women must enter the confessional wearing skirts at least 8 inches below the knees. It is forbidden to borrow longer dresses in Church and to wear them for the confessional.”

San Giovanni Rotondo confirmed there is no sign in existence now, and none left to prove it from before. From my research and those I spoke with in San Giovanni it seems there were some over-zealous writers that expanded on this story.”
That’s why I question the comment about wearing a veil. Why would Padre Pio require something that the Church did not. Women wore a head covering according to the custom if their region and culture. Veils, specifically, were not required by the Church.
 
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Yeah I don’t know about that sign. That’s not the sign I’m talking about.

Women were required at that time by the 1917 code of canon up until 1983.
 
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Isn’t that the same thing? I thought that was established. Either veiling or wearing a hat or scarf would have been acceptable. And sorry, I hadn’t researched that particular sign. Perhaps a different link would have been better suited.

The one I meant was in the lower part of the website.
 
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My response might be late, but could you persuade him that he can wear something else? “It’s the same thing, but for boys!” That way he has something special. Maybe it could be a pin or a cross necklace or something. Allow him to participate in the same idea but with a different spin. Maybe let him have some say in picking out the item or whatever.

Or will he only accept a veil?
 
I taught 20+ classrooms of poverty-level 5-7 years-olds for a few years and some these responses mystify me.

I’m not much for veils for those who aren’t religious. But if she chooses to veil, she just needs to keep wearing the veil and keep telling him that he’s not allowed to pull his sweater over his head, and patiently repeat the process, again and again and again and again and again, possibly with consequences, even if there is (seemingly) no effect. There’s like a 98% chance he’ll get bored with it after so many Sundays but an extremely low chance he’ll give up at first. Simultaneously, it will be a valuable experience for him in terms of limit-setting.

It would, very likely, be easier to just have the dad do this, but anybody can.

A lot of times, the only thing that motivates a kid to want to do something is the fact that they can’t do it. Either way, their attention and fascination moves on to something else.
Drop the veiling until he is older. As a parent, your primary goal is to educate your children. If it is a distraction and something that is upsetting him, you need to do what is best for him, not you.
This defeatism and fake martyrdom is borderline eccentric.

No, the mom doesn’t need to concede to her 6-year-old because of a piece of cloth on her head. GG, well-played, moving on.

Unsubscribing now 🙂
 
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My son is 3 and my daughter 6. When they want to do something that is purely for the opposite sex, we simply tell them “no, that’s for boys only” or “no, that’s for girls only.”

They might not like it, but they get it.

Kids need to understand that when mommy and/or daddy say “no” it means “no.”

God Bless
 
In the 1983 Code of Canon Law—the one in effect today—the canon about head coverings was not re-issued which means it was officially abrogated. Before that, it was required to be worn by the 1917 Code of Canon law.
 
In the 1983 Code of Canon Law—the one in effect today—the canon about head coverings was not re-issued which means it was officially abrogated. Before that, it was required to be worn by the 1917 Code of Canon law.

Not correct. Even before the 1983 code of Canon Law – the Church saw no need for women to cover.

Take note: By 1976 – the Church was already speaking of “veiling/covering” having no normative value.
SACRED CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
DECLARATION
INTER INSIGNIORES

Another objection is based upon the transitory character that one claims to see today in some of the prescriptions of Saint Paul concerning women, and upon the difficulties that some aspects of his teaching raise in this regard. But it must be noted that these ordinances, probably inspired by the customs of the period, concern scarcely more than disciplinary practices of minor importance, such as the obligation imposed upon women to wear a veil on their head (1 Cor 11:2-16); such requirements no longer have a normative value.

is Holiness Pope Paul VI, during the audience granted to the undersigned Prefect of the Sacred Congregation on 15 October 1976, approved this Declaration, confirmed it and ordered its publication.

Given in Rome, at the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, on 15 October 1976, the feast of Saint Theresa of Avila.

Franjo Cardinal Seper
Prefect

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...cfaith_doc_19761015_inter-insigniores_en.html
 
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