Song during the kiss of peace

[PacoG]

I have noticed at several parishes that the latest thing has been for the choir to sing a hymn about peace during the Kiss of Peace. It first started with Spanish Masses (they sing this awful hymn that goes “La Paz esta con nosotros. La Paz esta con nostotros. La Paz esta con nosotros y con nosotros seimpre esta La Paz” over and over and faster and faster). Now it seems like it has spread to English Masses (where the trend is for some song that sounds Hawaiian that goes “Peace I wish to you my friend” and includes a refrain after the “dona nobis pacem” part of the Angus Dei.

I don’t see where this is provided for in the GIRM. Is an adaptation that accreted from Mexico? Is this something that is happening elsewhere in the U.S.?

At my parish, our pastor is incredibly reverent in the way he celebrates the Holy Sacrifice. These innovations aren’t allowed in our parish. Thank God.

 

[SMHW]

I have noticed at several parishes that the latest thing has been for the choir to sing a hymn about peace during the Kiss of Peace. It first started with Spanish Masses (they sing this awful hymn that goes “La Paz esta con nosotros. La Paz esta con nostotros. La Paz esta con nosotros y con nosotros seimpre esta La Paz” over and over and faster and faster). Now it seems like it has spread to English Masses (where the trend is for some song that sounds Hawaiian that goes “Peace I wish to you my friend” and includes a refrain after the “dona nobis pacem” part of the Angus Dei.

I don’t see where this is provided for in the GIRM. Is an adaptation that accreted from Mexico? Is this something that is happening elsewhere in the U.S.?

At my parish, our pastor is incredibly reverent in the way he celebrates the Holy Sacrifice. These innovations aren’t allowed in our parish. Thank God.

I used to see/hear such songs occasionally back during the seventies and the eighties. I don’t know that I’ve seen it since then.

 

[PacoG]

I used to see/hear such songs occasionally back during the seventies and the eighties. I don’t know that I’ve seen it since then.

It would make sense that it was something from the 70s and 80s. We in South Texas always boast (or is it lament) that we are 10 years behind the times.

 

[puzzleannie]

been to Mass in Spanish up and down the Valley for 10 years and have not heard this, and I have heard about every Mass setting that is out there (including some that are Waaaaay out there). But maybe it is a regional thing

 

[PacoG]

been to Mass in Spanish up and down the Valley for 10 years and have not heard this, and I have heard about every Mass setting that is out there (including some that are Waaaaay out there). But maybe it is a regional thing

I think it is largely in a portion of the part of our region affectionately referred to as the Mid-Valley. I won’t say where.

I also think that Bishop Pena has done a lot to improve liturgy in the Diocese. You don’t seen a tenth of the abuses and nonesense that you saw 10 years ago. From having watched the different parishes masses that used to be on TV on Sunday mornings, the Mass is pretty uniform in terms of reverence and solemnity throughout the Diocese of Brownsville. I will be sad to see him retire when he turns 75.

 

[Phemie]

We used to sing something at our parish. It is poor liturgy, however, since it accords too much importance to a very minor ritual that can licitly be omitted.

 

[benedictgal]

I think it is largely in a portion of the part of our region affectionately referred to as the Mid-Valley. I won’t say where.

I also think that Bishop Pena has done a lot to improve liturgy in the Diocese. You don’t seen a tenth of the abuses and nonesense that you saw 10 years ago. From having watched the different parishes masses that used to be on TV on Sunday mornings, the Mass is pretty uniform in terms of reverence and solemnity throughout the Diocese of Brownsville. I will be sad to see him retire when he turns 75.

There was a parish that used to do this in Crystal City, complete with a conjunto setting “da la mano a tu hermano.” I have alsao seen it at done at a Mass celebrated for a community celebrated at a parish in South Central Austin. The big problem is that when some well-meaning folks see that there is nothing prescribed for this kind of thing in the Mass, they feel the need to insert something that clearly does not belong there.

What part of the Constitution on Sacred Liturgy do these folks not understand, especially when it clearly states that:

1. Therefore no other person, even if he be a priest, may add, remove, or change anything in the Liturgy on his own authority.

Furthermore, the exchange of peace is supposed to be brief, leading up to the Agnus Dei. It is not supposed to be a prolonged activity. It is also supposed to be exchanged with sobriety.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

I question whether the Kiss of Peace should last long enough to have a song. As I recall it is only supposed to be a quick hand shake with those immediately adjacent to you. five or six people at most.

 

[nlh1302]

Unfortunately I was at a Mass where the choir decided to do a rousing version of Let There Be Peace On Earth during the Sign of Peace. It went on and on and Father was standing there waiting for it to end. And then when they got to the Agnus Dei it seemed like it was tacked on as an afterthought.

In fairness, I don’t think Father knew it was going to happen and I doubt it will happen again, at least on his watch.