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There is a song that I really enjoy. It’s called “I Know that My Redeemer Lives,” I believe it is a mormon song!! Is it ok that I Iisten to it…I really enjoy the message. I appreciate the advice!

Thanks
 
Hi,
Ex-mormon here…I think you should look at the lyrics. I remember this song but not exactly…since mormons views are SO different than ANYTHING Christian, I don’t think it’s wise…

Just my two cents though.
 
Hi,
Ex-mormon here…I think you should look at the lyrics. I remember this song but not exactly…since mormons views are SO different than ANYTHING Christian, I don’t think it’s wise…

Just my two cents though.
Thanks…I looked them over and I don’t really see anything suspect…but I’m going to take your advice
 
This hymn was just sung at our Parish, at Mass. (The Parish has just hired a new music director, and, I can say that it is the first time that I heard it at Mass, that I can remember. He has also had a hymn, what I think is perhaps Welsh, one that Charlotte Church has on an album, or maybe Josh Groban … can’t think of the title at this moment.)

Your song is in both of our hymnals: 1. Worship II, by GIA Publications and 2. Breaking Bread by Oregon Publications. Both of ecclesial approval!

Do not be afraid to listen to Christian music. The Devil does not inspire Christian music, for as Christ said, a house divided would fall. Anyone who speaks for Christ is for Christ! Christian radio is … much better than talk shows sometimes … so that Most of the latest new Christian and Catholic music may not always be in the hymnals… We had a former band director write a hymn to our Parish’ patron saint, and it is sung at all Masses on His Feast Day.

Catholic is the universal church, and a Catholic can honestly love classical & traditional music from every country. Even modern secular music can inspire thoughts of God. Some really good Catholics and lovers of music can certainly attest to that. Let us say that most music can be *made *Christian, but even so, it may not appeal to you or I.

Here we are actually wondering about a hymn written by another Christian church for services, inspired by the Bible. Everyone here will tell you is a good thing, for the Bible was given to us through God, and the Word of God, Jesus Christ. Our hymnals are filled with music from other Christian churches. “It’s a gift to be simple,” a Shaker hymn, is a favorite, and “Silent Night.” I think that the Methodist Church may have a multitude of hymns that are not in our hymnals, but, I am just guessing.

Here is the reference listed in the hymnal: Job 19: 25.
25 But as for me, I know that my Vindicator lives, and that he will at last stand forth upon the dust; 26 And from my flesh I shall see God; my inmost being is consumed with longing.
usccb.org/nab/bible/job/job19.htm
Hey,

There is a song that I really enjoy. It’s called “I Know that My Redeemer Lives,” I believe it is a mormon song!! Is it ok that I Iisten to it…I really enjoy the message. I appreciate the advice!

Thanks
 
Our hymnals are filled with music from other Christian churches. “It’s a gift to be simple,” a Shaker hymn, is a favorite, and “Silent Night.”
Just a slight correction. “Silent Night” is definitely a Catholic hymn. From Wikipedia–
Silent Night” (“Stille Nacht”) is a popular Christmas carol. The original lyrics of the song Stille Nacht were written in German by the Austrian priest Father Josef Mohr and the melody was composed by the Austrian headmaster Franz Xaver Gruber
 
any of you church music buffs have a source for tune and lyrics of this hymn? I only hear it in a rocked up version on the contemporary Christian music station in which one of those whiney spice girl type singers wrestles with the tune and the words, so I sure would like to hear the more traditional version again. This being the south, a lot of American traditional hymns do make their way into Catholic Mass, especially funerals, such as Precious Lord, Amazing Grace of course, Just a Closer Walk with Thee, and How Great Thou Art.

While we are checking our references, I never heard “It is Well with my Soul” until I saw an old Touched by an Angel episode. Anyone have a source for that song? sounds like an old revival tune.
 
Just a slight correction. “Silent Night” is definitely a Catholic hymn. From Wikipedia–
Thanks for the correction. I’ve read the story, about Silent Night and, simply had it in my mind while I was composing the post! It is an example of a hymn sung by everyone, in every hymnal and composed by Catholics. (How’s that?!)

A Might Fortress is Lutheran. I think that the new director piled up these songs in one Mass, and I did not like it. Take it with a grain of salt though.

I have a correction … as to the hymn mentioned, it has been singing its way in my mind this morning, so I want to add that it is quite possible that this hymn is sometimes chosen for funerals or at a Mass with choir. Because it is so majestic, it fits with these two things, don’t you think?!

Here is an interesting link:

lectionary.org/hymnstories.htm

It is well with my soul … ???:

cyberhymnal.org/htm/i/t/i/itiswell.htm
 
Here is an interesting link for Lord of the Dance … a Shaker hymn. I was thinking of that one and obviously was ready for the sack, rather than posting for I mentioned the prayer instead.

cyberhymnal.org/htm/l/o/r/lordoftd.htm

(My HS, maybe Prot, teacher at our parish HS;
was the first to introduce us to the Shakers.)

'Tis the gift to be simple, 'tis the gift to be free,
'Tis the gift to come down where we ought to be,
And when we find ourselves in the place just right,
'Twill be in the valley of love and delight.

When true simplicity is gain’d,
To bow and to bend we shan’t be asham’d,
To turn, turn 'twill be our delight,
Till by turning, turning we come round right.

'Tis the gift to be loved and that love to return,
'Tis the gift to be taught and a richer gift to learn,
And when we expect of others what we try to live each day,
Then we’ll all live together and we’ll all learn to say,

When true simplicity is gain’d,
To bow and to bend we shan’t be asham’d,
To turn, turn 'twill be our delight,
Till by turning, turning we come round right.

'Tis the gift to have friends and a true friend to be,
'Tis the gift to think of others not to only think of “me”,
And when we hear what others really think and really feel,
Then we’ll all live together with a love that is real.

When true simplicity is gain’d,
To bow and to bend we shan’t be asham’d,
To turn, turn 'twill be our delight,
Till by turning, turning we come round right.

shaker song - simple gifts - elder joseph brackett - 1848

%between%
 
We watch BYUTV. Good art how-to show. Good music when the young adults go through the world and times with dance music: It is quite beautiful to watch, and, they have taken it on the road to other countries.
 
THANKS everybody…

I really enjoy the song and I am glad that it’s ok to listen to it!!!
 
If a hymn lifts your mind, heart and soul towards God, whether Catholic, Protestant or Mormon, then how could that be a Bad thing.

In my parish, our music director plays some very good Protestant hymns. The tunes are easy to sing and they just elevate our hearts and minds to God.👍

My favorite praise-worship and hymn music is good ole fashioned Southern Gospel. I am always playing this around the house while doing my work. Yes, sometimes the theology is a bit off, but I can overlook that.👍
 
I know that my Redeemer lives;
What comfort this sweet sentence gives!
He lives, He lives, who once was dead;
He lives, my ever living Head.
He lives to bless me with His love,
He lives to plead for me above.
He lives my hungry soul to feed,
He lives to help in time of need.
He lives triumphant from the grave,
He lives eternally to save,
He lives all glorious in the sky,
He lives exalted there on high.
He lives to grant me rich supply,
He lives to guide me with His eye,
He lives to comfort me when faint,
He lives to hear my soul’s complaint.
He lives to silence all my fears,
He lives to wipe away my tears
He lives to calm my troubled heart,
He lives all blessings to impart.
He lives, my kind, wise, heavenly Friend,
He lives and loves me to the end;
He lives, and while He lives, I’ll sing;
He lives, my Prophet, Priest, and King.
He lives and grants me daily breath;
He lives, and I shall conquer death:
He lives my mansion to prepare;
He lives to bring me safely there.
He lives, all glory to His Name!
He lives, my Jesus, still the same.
Oh, the sweet joy this sentence gives,
I know that my Redeemer lives!
 
great links, thanks
found this one about one of my favorite Christmas Carols
lectionary.org/HymnStories/Angels%20from%20the%20Realm%20of%20Glory.htm
Angels from the Realms of Glory, written by an Irish Moravian (now there is an interesting combo)

while searching on Precious Lord I found this site, which also plays the melodies and displays the lyrics
preciouslordtakemyhand.com/publish/christianhymns/jesus-is-tenderly-calling-you-home/
and clicked on Jesus is Tenderly Calling, which they sang at my (Methodist) grandmother’s funeral, which I have not heard since then and still brings me to tears.
 
CyberHymnal has three hymns with the same first line. You can hear midis of the tunes there. Here are the first verses:
Code:
I know that my Redeemer lives,
And ever prays for me;
A token of His love He gives,
A pledge of liberty.
  • Wesley, 1742 (Definitely not a Mormon!)
I know that my Redeemer lives;
What comfort this sweet sentence gives!
He lives, He lives, who once was dead;
He lives, my ever living Head.
  • Medley, 1775 (Too early to be a Mormon)
I know that my Redeemer liveth,
And on the earth again shall stand;
I know eternal life He giveth,
That grace and power are in His hand.
Refrain
I know, I know, that Jesus liveth,
And on the earth again shall stand;
I know, I know, that life He giveth,
That grace and power are in His hand.
  • Jessie B. Pounds, 1893
    She was not a Mormon. (You can click on her name to see her bio.)
Hope this helps. I love CyberHymnal.

God bless us all,

Ruthie
 
Like a novena, Blest One!

For puzzleannie: At Christmas, last year, “Moravian Christmas in the South” was recommended by P. A. Kossman in America, the National Catholic Weekly.
A truly impressive treat is Moravian Christmas in the South, by Nancy Smith Thomas (Univ. of North Carolina Press). When I visit my brother every Christmas in North Carolina, we take a long drive to Winston-Salem, where the Moravians (one of the earliest Protestant groups, hailing from Germany) took root in the mid-18th century. It was the Piedmont wildernesss at the time. And we stroll through Old Salem’s cobbled streets, visiting shops, museums, Salem College (the oldest educational institution for women in the United States), the huge bakery, Home Moravian Church, the cemetery and the Inn (for a superb home-cooked meal). It is all here—and more—in a lavishly illustrated volume full of historic detail, traditions and more. The illustrations span from the 1700s to the present and include photographs, paintings, pencil sketches and other forms.
The Moravians brought with them a distinct culture and unique customs. It is believed that the first verifiable Christmas tree in the South appeared at the Moravians’ Springplace Indian Mission in Georgia. Family and community are central (and sacred) to this devout Christian sect. So is simplicity in terms of Christmas gift-giving. The book abounds in fascinating and unusual details, from worship to cuisine, from delighting the children to musical traditions. Readers of all stripes can learn some wonderful and different traditions worth introducing in their own family’s Christmas observances. Moravian Christmas in the South is a book the whole family can enjoy. It’s the next best thing to being there (take it from me).
Also recommended is Art of the Creche: Nativities from around the world.

americamagazine.org/content/article.cfm?article_id=10473

How’s that for a parallel example! Catholicism means Universal.
 
Have you heard Handel’s Messiah?

I know that my redeemer liveth comes from Job 19:25, 26
  1. I know that my redeemer liveth, and that He shall stand on the latter day upon the earth: 26. And though worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God. 1Corinthians 15:20
  2. [For] now is Christ risen from the dead. . . the firstfruits of them that [sleep].
I don’t know about the versions you have been talking about, but ultimately they stem from the Book of Job.
 
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