Sources Other Than the Bible?

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Mommyof02green said:
Recently my Hubby bought me “Catholic Women’s Devotional Bible”.

Here is a link to Amazon it tells you what the bible has in it. amazon.com/Catholic-Womens-Devotional-Bible-Spangler/dp/0310900611/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-4530045-0340718?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173275345&sr=8-1

I’ve enjoyed it thus far.
(I’ve only have had it for about a month)
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I just wanted to add that I’ve read the devotional re: the birth of Jesus.
I do not believe it denies the “virgin birth”. (Just my opinion)

It just simply states that Jesus was born into this world like any other baby–covered in blood, screaming for air, and attached to his Mother by a fleshy cord.

There is no mention of birth pains. All babies cry when they are born… that’s what screaming for air means to me. Any mother that has given birth knows what it’s like waiting to hear that baby cry. Once you hear your baby cry then you know everything is all right.

All babies have umbilical cords, and they do need a bath when they are born.😉

I do not want to derail the thread…
So if want more info feel free to PM me.

Mrs. Abbott sorry for the slight derail. :o
 
colliric said:
I’ve got this edition of the NIV. I don’t think it’s worth getting mostly because it the NIV text and that one is flawed. The articles about history are good and would have made a good archelogical text book, but not a study bible so slanted in the protestant views.

It’s more worth owning a Catholic study bible and Catholic book on biblical archeology to go with it.
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What is it about the NIV (apart from it not including the so-called Apocrapha) that is flawed?
 
I have an NIV Quest Study Bible from my protestant days. The notes are decidedly biased toward a protestant interpretation. When addressing such verses as “Whose sins you forgive are forgiven” or “We are justified not by faith alone” it goes the illogical (but very protestant) route of passing them of with an “Of course Jesus didn’t really mean ‘whose sins you forgive are forgiven’ because we know that’s not true!” and “James didn’t really mean you aren’t justified by faith, because we know from these Pauline verses that you are”. :rolleyes:

In my former protestant church they would use Bible study programs and the like as a spiritual guide. Nothing outside of the Bible (and specifically how those in that church interpreted it) had any authority. Indeed, the Bible study programs would first have to agree with the beliefs of the church leadership before being exposed to the church members. It was a truly Sola Scriptura church. Any outside material was used more for spiritual edification than anything else.
 
Many Protestants, mostly from “mainline” churches look at the ECF, early Christian writings and history, even the Gnostic writings and the writings of the other “heretics” sheds light on what was going on during those first few centuries as doctrine and controversy within the Christian movement was being hammered out.

Most mainline Protestants realize that Christian history is not as pristine and cut and dry as many will insist. The controversy of East and West and the doctrinal formation that took place over the first centuries and how they were addressed by the councils called by the “orthodox” are all taken into account…

This is not intended to be an indictment on the ECF or a statement of “agreement” with those called “heretics” by the Catholic/Orthodox church. It is simply a statement that yes, mainline Protestants do use other sources than the Bible to get a “flavor” of what the various passages of scripture mean and in what historical setting and what controversies either religious or political were going on at the time the scriptures were written.

Most mainline Protestants who study scripture do come to their own conclusions based on information prayerfully read and considered.
 
rr1213 said:
I don’t doubt that. I also don’t doubt that if I hadn’t asked for it, we would have still seen it, albeit not from you. 😉
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no doubt. One of the many things I’ve learned here is that sola scripture is a hot button issue between different sects of christanity. I never even heard of the term until I started on these boards. I was also surprised to see the passion different protestants, christians and catholics bring to their debates with each other. I assumed that since everyone (more or less) believed Jesus was God, that all other differences were minor.

Of course, as someone who has argued endless with other Jews about one aspect of Judaism or another, it shouldn’t surprise me.
 
Valke2 said:
Of course, as someone who has argued endless with other Jews about one aspect of Judaism or another, it shouldn’t surprise me.
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We Catholics are the same way. I’m sure you’ve noticed hanging out here in the forums, if we don’t have Protestants to argue with, we WILL inevitably argue with ourselves. Maybe it’s just part of our fallen nature as humans.
 
jmcrae said:
When I was a Protestant, I used Strong’s Concordance, Who’s Who in the Bible (Reader’s Digest).
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I have a Strong’s Concordance as well. I have a Who’s Who in the Bible, published by Publicans International, Ltd., which has entries including all the people in the Bible including those in the Deuterocanonicals.
 
mrs_abbott said:
This is mainly for non-Catholics since I know all the various sources Catholics use besides the Bible for better understanding their faith (Tradition, Catechism, etc.).
Do Protestants use sources outside of the Bible to “aide” scriptural writings or is it just the Bible? If you do, what do you use?
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As a born again believer, I use no outside sources to help me read Scripture … the Holy Spirit is my guide.

Charlye 🙂
 
charlye said:
As a born again believer, I use no outside sources to help me read Scripture … the Holy Spirit is my guide.

Charlye 🙂
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If the Holy Spirit is your guide then the Holy Spirit is helping you… therefore the Holy Spirit is your “outside” source…

(in the most loose sense of the term)

God Bless
 
charlye said:
As a born again believer, I use no outside sources to help me read Scripture … the Holy Spirit is my guide.

Charlye 🙂
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AMEN SISTER/BROTHER!! Ultimately whether you use outside info. or not it is the HS guiding you into all truth.👍
 
Mommyof02green said:
If the Holy Spirit is your guide then the Holy Spirit is helping you… therefore the Holy Spirit is your “outside” source…

(in the most loose sense of the term)

God Bless
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I was under the impression that the original question was did we use sources outside of the Bible … (reference made to RC tradition and the catechism). As I do not consider the Holy Spirit to be a source outside of the Bible, hence, my answer.

Charlye 🙂
 
ALLFORHIM said:
AMEN SISTER/BROTHER!! Ultimately whether you use outside info. or not it is the HS guiding you into all truth.👍
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I have many other books in my library … but when it comes to undersanding Scripture, I need no others. The Holy Spirit was given to us when Jesus went to be with the Father and it is He who brings to our remembrance all that Jesus said and did. He would never lead us into error.

Charlye 🙂

(p.s. I’m a “sister”)
 
charlye said:
I was under the impression that the original question was did we use sources outside of the Bible … (reference made to RC tradition and the catechism). As I do not consider the Holy Spirit to be a source outside of the Bible, hence, my answer.

Charlye 🙂
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:cool:
 
charlye said:
I have many other books in my library … but when it comes to undersanding Scripture, I need no others. The Holy Spirit was given to us when Jesus went to be with the Father and it is He who brings to our remembrance all that Jesus said and did. He would never lead us into error.

Charlye 🙂

(p.s. I’m a “sister”)
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👍
 
Allweather said:
What is it about the NIV (apart from it not including the so-called Apocrapha) that is flawed?
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“Highly Favored” instead of “Full of Grace”

And Corpus and it’s Greek equilivent do not translate as Carcass or corpse(which the latin version does not necessarily indicate, even though it is used to back up these wrong translations)… it means body. The passage matthew 24:26 should read “Wherever the body lies, there the eagles shall be.”, Which for a catholic suddenly makes sense of an uncertain verse… We are the eagles… the passage refers to “the real presence”.

In otherwords it’s too anti-catholic in it’s translation, alot more so than the KJV.

Yeah I like my Douay Rheims, but thats not the issue as I also like the Good News version and that’s cross protestant-catholic.
 
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