Spanish Missal

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Usted is a modern spanish contraction of Vuestra Merced (His Mercy), is not a pronoun, is more like a formal title, like Mr or Sir. The second person singular vos was the formal, tu was the normal. The difference has disappeared since the Middle Ages. No one has made the difference and in Spanish we pray to God as Tu (you). Read a Spanish Bible for example or St. John of the Cross and you will get the idea. There is no thou/you contrast in modern Spanish. And in Argentina and Central america they use the Vos form, but it replaces the Tu anyways.
 
bpbasilphx said:
<<And to respond, it does seem strange that God is addressed using the “tu” form as opposed to the “Usted” form. Is this common in Romance languages when speaking to God?>>

Not at all.

“TU” is cognate of the French “TOI,” German “DU”, and English “THOU.”

These words have always been used in their respective langauge to address God.

What has happened in contemporary English is that the second person singular (thou) has totally disappeared from common spech, except in prayer and deliberate archaism.
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I am ten years out from my last German lesson - actually, more than that… But I recall the prayers we learned in German using the formal “Sie” rather than the familiar “Du”… Just a small small point…
 
JuanCarlos said:
And to respond, it does seem strange that God is addressed using the “tu” form as opposed to the “Usted” form. Is this common in Romance languages when speaking to God?
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In the Our Father, and other prayers using Elizabethan English, as well as in the Douay-Rheims Bible, God is addressed using the English equavent to the informal singular “tu” version - “Thou,” so it would only make sense that romance languages which retain the distinction would continue to do so.
 
I am looking for a spanish missal, I would like to buy it here in the UK, as the markup from the USA is not on. I am Scottish and visit the south of Spain regularly, and it would be great to try and follow the mass in spanish, by the way why in the UK we have hymm books yet I have never yet seen one in spain.:confused:
 
mikeanayaus said:
Just as a translation for non-Spanish speakers:

Yes, this link has the text of the Novus Ordo in Spanish the way it’s in the misalettes at church. But I’ve never been to a Spanish mass which used the same text. At every Spanish mass I’ve been to they’ve used songs that aren’t in the Ordinary instead. Some of these differences don’t really bother me (for example “you” instead of “thou” or “and with your spirit” instead of “and with Thy spirit”), but others seem a little odd (like “we worship you Lord” instead “praise to you Lord Jesus Christ/ glory to you, O Lord”). I also don’t understand at all why they replace the Sanctus and Agnus Dei with other songs. It’s really sad because the Spanish-speaking priests tend to be very good homilists and I always learn alot from them but I simply can’t get used to Charismatic masses so I don’t even bother going to mass in Spanish anymore.
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I have seen that most Spanish parishes have unique songs. At my parish, Our Lady of Guadalupe, they have an English Mass followed by a Spanish Mass. Sometimes I stay for the Spanish Mass, though I speak little, or just show up for that one instead.

At the Spanish Mass, we always turn and face an image of OLG before Mass starts, and sing a cantada (spelling?) to her, in Spanish. I don’t know the words, but it’s very Spanish! This is never done at the English Mass, even in English.
 
Geremia said:
Thank you, but that misal does not appear to be a daily missal. Is it? It is pretty short, being ~500 pages.
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No, as its name suggests, Mi Misal Dominical is a Sunday Missal. No mention was made in the OP about the need for the missal to include daily propers. A Sunday missal is better than the edition with just the propers for Trinity Sunday, and would probably serve the needs of about 90% of the people.

God bless,

Fr. Boyd
 
Geremia said:
The full text is here, but it does not have the readings in Latin, just Spanish only. 😦
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Yes. It shows the need that we have to get a Spanish-Latin daily missal published. The Belgian monastery that owns the copyright for the St. Andrew edition isn’t a fan of the old Mass, and has been difficult to work with in the past. Until we get something better, I think Mi Misal Dominical is the best available. At least it’s inexpensive ($15.36).

God bless,

Fr. Boyd
 
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