Spiritual lonliness

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I’m not complaining although this might sound like it, but has anyone felt alone spiritually with other people you live with and work with? I’m really not alone, spiritually I am very comfortable in prayer,at Mass, Adoration, but when I try to share anything with others there is no one I seem to “connect” with. I very much want to, but am not really able to so I just communicate at where others are. It is fine, but spiritually I am lonely for others to share with that would somehow understand me somewhat…yet I can accept this if it is His will.
Anyone experience this?

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Yup…I’ve felt the same thing. My husband isn’t Catholic so it’s difficult for me to share with him (even though he’s open to it). My “cure” was joining the Women’s Bible Study at my Chapel. I finally met women around my age who I could relate with and other women who are very much my role models. After meeting many “catholics” who don’t practice or even believe in a lot that the church teaches I was giving up hope. Have you reached out to any groups at your Church? Bible Study or Rosary makers or gender specific groups?
 
Yup…I’ve felt the same thing. My husband isn’t Catholic so it’s difficult for me to share with him (even though he’s open to it). My “cure” was joining the Women’s Bible Study at my Chapel. I finally met women around my age who I could relate with and other women who are very much my role models. After meeting many “catholics” who don’t practice or even believe in a lot that the church teaches I was giving up hope. Have you reached out to any groups at your Church? Bible Study or Rosary makers or gender specific groups?
Yes, I have. I’m in our Arise bible study, but that is it as for groups at our parish. Those Catholics I have met really know little about the Catholic faith. (I know only because I’ve been studying for 3 years) I guess I thought more would understand Catholic teaching and spirituality. Many I’m finding don’t. I had to explain some things to a cradle Catholic who didn’t know what Adoration was or what a Monstrance was. Is that typical in other places?
 
mlz, I’ve been feeling the same thing lately. I noticed that if I post something frivolous on Facebook, my friends will comment. However, if it’s something about faith… silence. Well actually ,that’s not entirely accurate. Friends from my hometown will comment, but no one that I’m friends with in NY. It does make me feel kind of lonely sometimes. I wish I had more people in my life with whom I could share my faith.
 
Yes, I have. I’m in our Arise bible study, but that is it as for groups at our parish. Those Catholics I have met really know little about the Catholic faith. (I know only because I’ve been studying for 3 years) I guess I thought more would understand Catholic teaching and spirituality. Many I’m finding don’t. I had to explain some things to a cradle Catholic who didn’t know what Adoration was or what a Monstrance was. Is that typical in other places?
Unfortunately so. There are a few in my bible study group who are much the same…as well as a couple truly educated people. I myself could have been able to teach my own Confirmation class and knew more than the teacher did when I was only 14. I’m currently living on a military base in Japan, so our resources are few out here. It’s sad, but many Catholics are VERY lukewarm in their Faith and have no desire to learn beyond what they already know (which is little to begin with). Usually people think they can stop learning once they’re done with CCD or Religious Education for children and highschoolers.
 
Hello Mlz

I think you might find that the faithful do actually live what could be described as a hermit form of existence it`s part and parcel of spiritual life for many .

I also have not much communication with other`s, you could also see it as a spiritual denial of life " of in the world living, at least at certain times anyway".

Also the problem if you see it as that is lots of those people types that see church as a recluse for the needy will as our Lord has spoken, ignore you so vee so, for the wordly dont know what there doing did he not speak ! .

Enjoy your day . ,
 
I feel that way a lot also no one to talk to that wants to listen, an i am in plenty of Church groups which are fantastic, yet as great as it is an even though i feel a great connection to them it stops outside our group meetings, it is like we are only friends when in the group… and it hurts cause they all know how to get ahold of me, an i am too shy to reach out on my own to them… but i have told them all they can call me any time… So which half is it, me for not pushing them more to meet me outside our group functions or them ?

I have nothing but time on my hands to be with these people an I dont know what to do, So I volunteer to meet more people an continue on the journey i am on… I find so much comfort in the Church an in Christ yet a lot of lonlieness as well, as many in the parish are just luke warm, or are too busy… Christ is never too busy though ! Neither are the Saints.

It is the only comfort I have in life and just one more reason drawing me closer to wanting to be with Christ and has drawn me to a discerning a religious vocation as a priest… I see how lonely I have been in spirit an community, yet I can never spend enough time with the people i want to be with, because i guess i come off *** too needy, Yet the Church, Christ, the Saints, they dont push me away, they dont rip on me for being who i am, they dont judge me. An the thing is what I want in the secular world i just dont think I can ever have, a wife and family that will want to spend a lot of time with me in the way that I truly need it. It will never be enough for me to have a wife that loves me yet have to leave her to work some job i could careless about or am unappreciated at , to not knowing if she will forgive me for mistakes i will eventually make down the road and leave me… not to mention having to find a Catholic wife who is also phsyically attractive… The needle one has to thread becomes smaller an smaller, an it goes both ways …

The Church though is the bride i need, and what i want and what i need are two different things. An it is frustrating because I would like to find someone who can love me as a wife unconditionally, an to just be lonely forever i cant handle… An it is scary that the Church offers this, there will always be someone who needs me an someone that I need as well, that I can find Christ in an can be found in me …

some could look at this as oh no look at all these depressed an lonely people ! an the truth is everyone is depressed to some degree, there are no " normal and happy people " out in this world, an those that claim they are , are few an far inbetween if not flat out liars.

The Church as a bride though an the unconditional love that Christ offers, I do not see how I can possibly ignore this call, I have done my part in discerning an will move forward if accepted, I gave up hope for finding a family and bride a long time ago in the secular world never thought it could happen in the Catholic Church in a vocation as a priest, yet here I am…

kind of ranted but what ever.
 
I have always felt spiritually on the ‘out side.’ As an evangelical, I was always leading bible studies and ministries, wanting to go deeper and discuss the spiritual process with others, but there are precious few who want to go there. Since having cancer, losing my Dad, and converting to Catholicism, I am extremely lonely. I do have my husband, who is also Catholic, but his side of the family has all but disowned us and don’t understand our need to go deep in the spiritual life, and my side of the family thinks we’re religious nuts (it’s okay to go to church and all, but don’t take it all too seriously like not moving in with boyfriends or being honest on taxes–that’s taking it a little too overboard with the goody-goody Christian stuff). Since becoming Catholic, I have lost all my evangelical friends (except my best friend–she’s a treasure). There are few to understand. I give this loneliness over to God always while considering His Passion, His abandonment, how He agonized in the garden, was mocked with the crown of thorns, humiliated by being stripped down. Identifying with Jesus is my only consolation. The further I walk with God, traveling through the narrow gate, the fewer people in my life come along with me. But I could not turn back–I would give up everything to follow Jesus. I hope I have the strength to never fall away from Him.
 
Me too, which is perhaps all the more surprising because I work in my parish.

It’s not easy at home, either, as I’m in the same boat as mariacamille.

On top of that, I’m the only native Anglophone in the parish and my French isn’t good enough to allow me to participate in Bible study groups or similar activities without holding the other members of the group back. 😦

My solution was to surround myself with the clergy. There is always a priest somewhere who needs help with something. Even a material need can turn into a spiritual encounter. The exchange of concepts and ideas I have had with priests while we performed other tasks—sometimes as simple as fixing a curtain rod in the rectory office or clearing the snow off his car windows—has been essential in easing my sense of spiritual isolation. Occasionally I get lucky and we pray together as we work. I could never feel lonely in the company of those God Himself chose to do His work on Earth.

john78, I’m sorry for what you’re going through and that you feel the way you do. You are in my prayers.
 
I have felt lonely for some one to connect with spiritually. I hit the jackpot when I joined a Catholic Home Schooling group. These women, lived the Church teachings, they practiced NFP, were open to life, went to daily mass, and adoration! wow, it was awesome. Even thogh my kids are grown, we still see each other at prolife, or parish activities. Bible study is a great way to meet also.
 
I’m not complaining although this might sound like it, but has anyone felt alone spiritually with other people you live with and work with? I’m really not alone, spiritually I am very comfortable in prayer,at Mass, Adoration, but when I try to share anything with others there is no one I seem to “connect” with. I very much want to, but am not really able to so I just communicate at where others are. It is fine, but spiritually I am lonely for others to share with that would somehow understand me somewhat…yet I can accept this if it is His will.
Anyone experience this?

mlz
This is me to a T.
 
Yes. I converted (I mean a deep relationship beyond Sunday Mass, an integration of Jesus into my daily life) when I was very young. No one around me really cared too much about knowing and sharing their life with Jesus and therefore with me. This lasted for about 20 years and finally God’s mercy sent me my husband, who converted after we met each other. We have a deep and mutual love for God and His church. Those 20 years were very lonely and hard but I wouldn’t trade the depth of intimacy I reached with Jesus during that time.
 
I think the biggest obstacle when one is facing this trial is to actually stay true and strong. I was very devout in my pre-teen/early teen years…but then in my desire to not be lonely I fell away and became very lukewarm in my faith…I’ve struggled since then to regain that childlike faith and I’m very angry with myself for failing not just God…but myself. It makes me sad (for myself) when I see others presented with the same trials and I see how they succeeded and held firm when I did not.

God called us to set us APART…we need to follow that calling and embrace it, even if it means being spiritually lonely.
 
You’re not alone-I’ve experienced this as well. I’ve noticed that it isn’t always a sense of loneliness-often it’s the opposite in being happy as I am, so for me it tends to swing between the two. The timeframe is always different for each though.

While praying one day, I asked why it was particularly hard sometimes and other times not, and the sense I got was of how metal is tempered repeatedly while making something-it’s brought into the heat and then cooled outside (molded with an anvil or hammer etc), then heated again. It made sense.

I’ve read that just as there are moments of consolation and happiness in the spiritual life, there can also be the opposite times of desolation. I find those times for more acts of faith, love and hope, even if I don’t feel the faith or love or hope.

I also try to be active in learning about the faith, keep praying and participating in the sacraments no matter what.

You’re all in my prayers.
 
You are not alone here - I know exactly how you feel.

I rejoined the Catholic Church 2 years ago, after a long hiatus, and I am in the process of being confirmed, and in that time I feel I have not connected with one person spiritually. Maybe I am the problem! Maybe I should try harder, but I sometimes find that the Catholics in my parish are not very welcoming to newcomers, which to me seems very “unchristian” like. I am getting more involved with helping out, but I never thought it would be this difficult. In contrast, I found the people at AA far more accommodating and welcoming.

FG
 
I appreciate all the prayers I can get, what i find discouraging is after going through some sessions with a psychologist,the opposite to the lonelyness is putting oneself out in the public, so for me it is two fold doing so, it is apart of discernment / formation towards a religious life, it is in part to see Christ working in others and encounter Christ in others by serving them, and to break the pain that has damaged me. An all I see is that I could spend a ton of money on therapists and still feel lonely, I can keep putting myself out into the public and say here I am, call me, and wait for a call that never comes. OR I can start a metamorphis and stop worrying about who will be my friend, who will listen to me an my worries… and start learning how to better follow Christ and pursue this journey i have embarked on till i get a clear answer from someone. I must say this has been a terrible process for me, I have gotten absolutely no answers from anyone so far that I should be getting answers from an at the very least guidance, and when i press issues that are deeply concerning to me I get blank stares and no answers. Vague replies at best and then i get brushed off… This from the very people i admire and just want to spend more time with. Basically they are just too busy.

Or I get told in no particular way that i talk to much, just look at any of my threads an you can see the length of my dialoge. I am so deprived of contact and socializing with people on a daily basis that when i do get to talk to anyone it can be overwhelming for me an them so i have to curb my enthusiasm so i dont scare anyone away. Just reminds me of an author who writes a novel, a story, starts with once upon a time, middle of the story is a love an conflict, then a solution an conclusion and the end. I could put all my worries and problems down very easy, but how does that express what i really feel. An then when people do reply to me that i depend on for real guidance, to be brushed off in a reply an how so… to get a short two sentence reply to a good two or three paragraphs that doesn’t even touch on anything i wrote about that concerns me, not only hurts me but tells me the person really isn’t interested, is too busy, or just doesn’t know pick which ever i would at least appreciate the truth to be told to me in any case.

Then to be invited out to socialize after a group meeting by a person, feels great, but then to barely be engaged by that person really makes me wonder why i was invited in the first place… when i do contribute to the conversations but no one ever really probes into who i am or asks me anythin significant that really indicates they are interested in who i am. An i want to ask why do you keep inviting me.

So i how do i combat the lonlieness ? Through Adoration, I can not sleep at night when it is my scheduled early early morning to be with Christ, i try to sleep but i barely do, there is this anticipation of worrying about oversleeping which i never do, an i have a prayer partner who relies on me an we are glad to see each other as well.

A very soothing hour for me, where i just dump it all out, and not even dumping things out it is really a dialoge like no other in this time of prayer, where i am not ignored at all. I see how much i have to give of myself that it is probably just too much for one person to handle, an thus the Church comes into play, it really is the perfect fit. my wanting is out weighed by what i truly need. An i cant not fathom how i could possibly turn away from something i need, how i need the Church and how I need Christ. The trials an i guess growing pains, the struggles that comes with a religious vocation i know i can handle, I took the worst the military had to offer, and my faith got me through such a distant nightmare now being 13 yrs the pain is still there. An i could say i am way too damaged to enter into a religious life or i could see how strong my faith is and how maybe this is exactly where i am supposed to be… perception, is the glass half full or empty… An just when i think i dont really matter, Christ opens up a door an shoves me right through to encounter people an situations i never saw coming. An i make a difference. So if I am lonely for a few hours a night because the rest of the world goes to sleep, then i guess i just have to sacrafice those hours, an be patient. So it is either in this lonliness i can stay introverted an not talk to anyone and suffer, or i can talk to everyone and seek the Love that Christ is and has to offer. An if we don’t talk if we curb or trim down what we really want to say and hold back then who is that helping. Especially if you cant say what you need to say in one paragraph versus what i have here. I couldnt say this any quicker than i have now. an if i did it would be misinterpreted.
 
Yes, I too have felt this.

In fact, that is why I spend as much time on this site as I do. 😊

If anyone “gets it,” it’s all of you here. I have found great support, learned a lot and made some very good friends here. 🙂
 
I very rarely meet practicing Catholics. I have several friends who are devout, and that means so much to me. I still feel very lonely often because these people live far away. My husband is not Catholic and as I’ve grown closer to God over the years this has become a source of much sadness for me. I always tend to meet secular people, and that really wears me out. I just can’t connect with them on a deeper level, even when we have enough in common.

So OP, you are not alone.
 
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