Spiritual prayer battle

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This is something that has been on my mind lately. I was at a place in my life where I felt God’s grace. I was happy and devout in my vocation as a wife/mother. I felt such a sense of Grace, and I think that it was in part because of cooperation with God’s will, using NFP.

My husband, son and I were buying fall flowers to plant in the beds while me daugher was at preschool. when we got into the car, NPR was on and someone had just called the station saying that something hit the World Trade Center. We immediately began praying and while we listened to the radio I began paying the rosary with my fingers. By the time we got home another plane hit the second tower. We watched it live on tv. I continued to pray the rosary with my fingers the whole time. They said there were two planes that were off the radar and speculated that they were hi-jacked. One hit the pentagon. My husband left for my daughter’s preschool and I took my baby son outside to let him play in the sandbox while I prayed the rosary on my fingers. Suddenly I felt transported. I could see everything happening on a plane. I was asking my grandfather to pray with me, I had a strong sense of the holy family and the need for these people to have the strength of the holy family. I heard myself praying for them to take the plane down into a field. “Take over the plane, take it down into a field” I was saying that over and over. I was watchign these people and felt like I was saying the “Our Father” with them. I watched a strength and resolve come over them. I watched many of them change from fear to action. I prayed for all their souls, I prayed for forgiveness of their sins. I knew the plane crashed and then it was over. This probably went on for at least a half an hour. I went into the house a few minutes later and they were saying that a plane went down in PA. I knew that it went down into a field because I watched it happen. I felt peace, and continued to pray. I know at that moment, when I believe I had a vision, that the saints and prayers of the faithful were in unison. I sometimes wonder if other people saw the same thing while they were praying. I had never had anything happen like that before. It took me into a deeper conversion as a result.

Here is the problem. Months later I was plagued with intrusive thoughts that it was my prayers that helped kill those people. I was also plagued with thoughts that It was my imagination, or that I was feeling pride in that experience and started beating myself up emotinally. At the time I felt total peace, but later I found myself avoiding praying the rosary because the thought of having a prayer experience like that again was taxing. I found myself feeling anxious and depressed and my prayer has not been as intense. I talked a little about what happened that day with my mom because I know she has had similar “visions” while praying. She told me that she had the same reaction later, the sense that she was afraid of it happening again. As far as I know the last time it happened to her she was praying in the 80’s and saw a campsite being flooded. She pushed the thoughts away because they were awful and then found out that evening that a dam broke onto a state park and flooded campers. I think she was plagued with the same thougths later of “I’m not going to do this again.” and started avoiding such deep prayer.

Here’s the thing, I recently realized that I have gone from having a comforting and deep spiritual prayer life, to it becoming an intense and powerful experience with God the communion of saints, including those on Earth. Then, after that experience I slowly let it slip. I was in prayer group and the list of people I was praying for suddenly seemed a mile long. I started putting it off, afraid of having another intense vision if I prayed too deeply.

The thing that is bothering me about this is I am afraid that God was calling me to pray in this way and I ran from it. The only thing I can think to do is to force myself to pray and pray hard. I am afriad that I turned away from the Holy Spirit because I was too spiritually weak to heed this call to prayer and now I need to mend it.
 
Has anyone out there had similar experiences? What did you do to repair the problem? I am starting to believe that I was unknowingly in a spiritual battle, and that I was allowing evil to sway me. I didn’t want to tell people about this because I felt it was something I needed to keep to myself. I avoid personal pride and didn’t want to turn this experience into something I am proud of. This is also why I have avoided talking to a priest, but maybe I should. I’m not psychic, I just think that the Holy Spirit calls me to prayer in this way. And I failed miserably by avoiding that call. How can a person become so weak?
 
Peace be with you

Unfortunately I can’t help you to deal with this - because I am in kind of the same boat - but I can say you are not alone.

Coming face to face with the realities of God, and the faith/our purpose here on earth - is extremely scary. I too have stopped praying the rosary for a time now, for essentially the same reasons. I suppose some will say that it is letting satan win, and in a way they would be correct - yet, I feel that these experiences are given to us as preparation. Something to show us we are on the right track. The next logical step then would be to get to a place spiritually where we CAN deal with it - and then pick our crosses back up and go on, in effect then - NOT letting him win…he may have won a battle - but the war is far from over.

I am hoping there are people out there who have successfully dealt with this issue who can help.

How to do this, I do not know. I only know that it is necessary.

Peace and Love
 
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PraRFLEsEkHm:
Peace be with you

Unfortunately I can’t help you to deal with this - because I am in kind of the same boat - but I can say you are not alone.

Coming face to face with the realities of God, and the faith/our purpose here on earth - is extremely scary. I too have stopped praying the rosary for a time now, for essentially the same reasons. I suppose some will say that it is letting satan win, and in a way they would be correct - yet, I feel that these experiences are given to us as preparation. Something to show us we are on the right track. The next logical step then would be to get to a place spiritually where we CAN deal with it - and then pick our crosses back up and go on, in effect then - NOT letting him win…he may have won a battle - but the war is far from over.

I am hoping there are people out there who have successfully dealt with this issue who can help.

How to do this, I do not know. I only know that it is necessary.

Peace and Love
What are you doing to remedy your problem now? Maybe you are right and it is a way to prepare us for what is to come. I guess I should make myself more spiritually prepared and start praying as intensely as I used to?
 
Dear friend

What you have experienced in prayer is a beautiful gift from God. You have been involved in a spiritual battle and a temptation from the evil one. You must continue in prayer and allow Jesus to lead you, follow Him, He will not lead you anywhere where He will not give you sufficient grace to follow Him.

Ask the Holy Spirit for courage and be courageous, you have nothing to fear. Jesus loves you, you know this, you therefore must trust that wherever He leads you in your life of prayer will be for your benefit and for the benefit of others.

You must not worry that you felt detered from prayer, you have yourself recognised it as a temptation to cease such intimate prayer with our Lord and you are now by God’s grace in a position to resist that temptation and return to the beautiful gift God has so graciously given to you. Please remember to thank God for this beautiful gift 🙂

God Bless you and much love and peace to you

Teresa
 
This reminds me of and old adage. “Be careful what you wish for. You just might get it.” How many of us have asked to do God’s will? We want to do what he has ordained for us. We wish to be tools for His work in the world. And when he grants us these requests, it scares the pants off us!

After having such a powerful experience, I think it is natural to need a “rest”. Perhaps that one experience is all God has given to you, but perhaps not. If you shy away from praying with such vigor, you may never know. Since you have felt such a powerful connection with the Communion of Saints, ask them for help. Ask them to help you be courageous! Ask them to pray for you, that you will be able to do what God asks of you. He would not ask you to do anything you could not handle. He obviously has a great deal of faith in you, to use you in such a powerful way! It would be a shame to let fear turn you from it. I can only imagine how difficult a burden this must be for you. Just know that God never lets us carry any burden alone. It is a double yoke with Him holding up the other side. When you feel weak, don’t worry. He won’t let you fall. And remember, that the more you walk in righteousness, the bigger target you will be for the devil. He loves to try to bring down God’s best servants! Don’t worry, though. Your strength is in the Lord!

I have to admit I had chills reading your posts, Peace-bwu and Pra. You have been given an incredible gift. Even though it sometimes doesn’t feel like it! Perhaps it would be helpful to find a spiritual director who could help you on a more personal level. I don’t know where you could look for one, but talking to your priest or contacting your diocese would probably be a good start. I have no doubt that you are being called to be “prayer warriors” for our times. God is preparing humanity for what is to come. I can imagine that you are in good company among God’s faithful. There are probably many others accross the globe who have had experiences like yours. Together, we can fulfill God’s plan for the world!

If I was in your shoes, I would really start looking into the lives of the Saints. Starting with Padre Pio. You will, no doubt, find many inspirational role models to turn to and ask for help on your journey. I bet many of them had powerful experiences similar to yours and their stories may be of some help and comfort to you. BTW, the fact that you are worried about pride being involved, is a clue that it is not!

Anyway, I hope that you find the courage to go forward, and use this gift for the benefit of many. We all need the power of such prayer! You all will definately be in mine!
 
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Dear friend

What you have experienced in prayer is a beautiful gift from God. You have been involved in a spiritual battle and a temptation from the evil one. You must continue in prayer and allow Jesus to lead you, follow Him, He will not lead you anywhere where He will not give you sufficient grace to follow Him.

Ask the Holy Spirit for courage and be courageous, you have nothing to fear. Jesus loves you, you know this, you therefore must trust that wherever He leads you in your life of prayer will be for your benefit and for the benefit of others.

You must not worry that you felt detered from prayer, you have yourself recognised it as a temptation to cease such intimate prayer with our Lord and you are now by God’s grace in a position to resist that temptation and return to the beautiful gift God has so graciously given to you. Please remember to thank God for this beautiful gift 🙂

God Bless you and much love and peace to you

Teresa
Thank your for your encouragement. I have certainly always admired the saints, and will look to their lives for encouragement. This is something that has been on my mind for 4 years. I feel badly for faltering a bit. (to me it feels like faltering alot) I still pray, but not the same way I did before that happened. When it happened I felt so at peace and then weeks or months later I started having all those bad feelings. It was another post that made me realize that it could have been actual temptation, that Satan works through our fears and weaknesses. I am going to make a big assessment of my life, dig deeper to root out sin through a good confession and put forth all I can to do God’s will.

I am anticipating the World Day of prayer on Oct. 2.
 
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Peace-bwu:
Thank your for your encouragement. I have certainly always admired the saints, and will look to their lives for encouragement. This is something that has been on my mind for 4 years. I feel badly for faltering a bit. (to me it feels like faltering alot) I still pray, but not the same way I did before that happened. When it happened I felt so at peace and then weeks or months later I started having all those bad feelings. It was another post that made me realize that it could have been actual temptation, that Satan works through our fears and weaknesses. I am going to make a big assessment of my life, dig deeper to root out sin through a good confession and put forth all I can to do God’s will.

I am anticipating the World Day of prayer on Oct. 2.
Dear friend

It is a fact we cannot shake off satan, we will have to do battle with him until we die as well as do battle against our own broken selves, but by the grace of God we are shielded and led by Jesus through every battle following behind our Saviour who does not abandon us.

Immerse yourself in the Sacred Heart of Jesus hidden there in the Blessed Sacrament, offer every trial of your life as a redemptive offering joined to His upon His Sacred Altar. These trials of temptation and spiritual sufferings are what crown our salvation by ultimately increasing virtue in ourselves, for our own good and that of others.

I know you have suffered a great deal, but such beautiful gifts from God do not come about without ordeal and suffering, you are greatly blessed, blessed in gifts and suffering, the chalice of our Lord. This trial will strengthen your faith!

Smile, be grateful, be joyful and rejoice in the kindness of God.

I’ll say a prayer for you and please remember to say a little prayer for me.

God Bless you always and much love and peace to you

Teresa
 
Thank-you both for your wonderful posts and your prayers - you will be in mine as well.
 
Have you considered the help of spiritual guidance from maybe a priest well versed in this particular gift? I have no idea how one finds such a person, maybe someone can enlighten us if this is a worthy suggesstion, but God can certainly provide.
Keep persevering is all I can say, it’s probably not helpful, but I think you’ve been given a great gift and possibly a responsibility? God Bless. 🙂
 
I am going to seek a spiritual advisor. I am very careful who I trust so findng a spiritual advisor will be a leap of faith for me.
 
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Peace-bwu:
I am going to seek a spiritual advisor. I am very careful who I trust so findng a spiritual advisor will be a leap of faith for me.
Pray, and God will lead you…but trust him.

He actually revealed my current SD to me in a dream, and in looking back, other signs were there as well. (I don’t mean to imply that we should rely on “signs”). What I recognized was the way this particular priest kept crossing my path and how he had insights that displayed to me personally the love of Christ.

I actually felt repelled at first, and because this priest is leaving soon, I actually thought that I was wrong to go to him. I had every reason in the world to NOT approach this priest…but thank God for solid Catholic friends! They gave me the courage to follow what God was telling me to do and to trust in him…and so he became my SD.

He is leaving soon to return to his home country, and I will have to find another. But the cool thing is that I am understanding his role and that this short time period with him was for God’s purpose.

So pray, look to solid Catholic friends for advice, and let God lead you to where you belong.

And orthodoxy…always look to those who are orthodox, who exhibit Christ, and trust in the Lord to lead you.

You definitely need to seek out real direction on this, and not from an internet board.

God bless you…I will pray that you find your SD!
 
SD…now why didn’t I think of that…apart from signs [No offence intended JC] how do I go about finding one? Yellow pages? I am lost when it comes to things like this… and too - I want to thank you Peace-bwu for posting this - I am not sure I would have had the courage to look further, for awhile, had I not seen your post.
 
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PraRFLEsEkHm:
SD…now why didn’t I think of that…apart from signs [No offence intended JC] how do I go about finding one? Yellow pages? I am lost when it comes to things like this… and too - I want to thank you Peace-bwu for posting this - I am not sure I would have had the courage to look further, for awhile, had I not seen your post.
Like I said…pray. Don’t look for signs… Don’t worry, I didn’t take any offence. I used the term loosely, and what I recognized in hindsight as “signs” as to where God was leading me is too personal to reveal here.

So pray.

In general terms, a Spiritual Director does not necessarily have to be a priest, and not all priests would make good SD’s, nor are all trained to do so. Some schools of though say that your SD should also be your confessor, others say that the 2 should be seperate.

An SD is someone who is spiritually grounded, faithful to the magesterium, and who can give you solid, nonjudgmental yet maybe stern advice. They can help you understand what God is doing in your life and where you are being led. People who are discerning religious vocations are required to have an SD (I use “required” loosely as well as obviously there is no checklist for entrance to a convent, etc.).

An SD can be a lay person, a nun, sister, friar, monk, priest, bishop…etc.

If you have a convent or monestary close by, see if they do spiritual direction. But be careful in some areas…I know the monestaries in my local area run by the nuns are very heterodox and are into the new age thing…so watch your sources.

Is there a priest or someone in your life you look up to? Maybe your parish priest can actually refer you to someone?

Keep in mind also that you do need to “click” with your SD. You may love and respect someone, but sometimes they are not the person you need for this particular purpose…so again, it comes back to prayer.

Don’t expect instant results. Spend time with Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament, and give him your time, and let him lead you. Patience is a virtue (I know…I don’t have any at all…)

God bless you !
 
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