SPLC classifies Traditionalist Catholics as a Hate Group?

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Thank you, thank you, thank you. I will be able to sleep in peace tonight.

I really liked the Weigel book, by the way.
 
The SPLC is and always was a shakedown group, like a lot of so called civil rights groups. The leaders get wealthy off of their work. They are best ignored or scorned.
 
Again, how does the SPLC identify such people? Meeting one or two on a personal basis is one thing, but a “hate group” requires a Group.
 
Those are World War II Russian soldiers with their rifles raised in parade salute. Who was this man?
 
From Wikipedia he was a socialist/fascist. That is good by today’s standards. He fled communism and the Red Army so he was a refugee. That is another good thing by today’s standards. He was extradited by the US to face trail and capital punishment. That is bad by today’s standards for both sending him back to his home country and capital punishment. It seems he was complicit in the removal of Jews from Czechoslovakia which was and is a bad thing. Overall he was an awful priest.
 
The SPLC isn’t very authoritative at all, I wouldn’t sweat it if I was being fingered.

I’ve looked at some of their local Pittsburgh “hate group” listings. They had a restaurant on Lincoln Highway as a “hate group”.

They have a fast and loose definition of “hate”.
 
Huh. Could you give an example or two. I’m curious.

Maybe I’m shocked because I’m not a rad trad. I’m just a trad. 😁
 
I’m a cafeteria trad!

JPII, Mother Teresa…to name 2 of the more popular ones…
 
The one I hear the most seems to be St.John XXlll. They many times view him as the one who got the Vatican Council ll rolling and also believe since he only had one miracle it is not legit.
 
When the SSPX’s excommunications were lifted it came out that one of their bishops was interviewed and he made statements denying the holocaust. The response of the SSPX was to fire him from his position as the head of their seminary in Argentina. Eventually they kicked him out of their organization.
They may have theological disagreement with the Jews but I don’t think that makes them antisemitic.
 
In the words of the then Secretary of State Cardinal Eugenio Pacelli (later Pope Pius XII) “with the concordat we are hanged. Without the concordat we are hanged, drawn and quartered”.

The Church didn’t have a choice and certainly never became a “partner” to the Nazis. If it did then why did Pope Pius XII become involved in plots to kill Hitler?
 
Are you saying the Church taking part in an assassination plot, even against someone as evil as Hitler, is something it should have been doing? I would leave that to the military powers involved. The Church should not be in that business.

I’m not saying the Church did not have its reasons and was perhaps not justified in signing the concordat. I was countering an earlier statement that “the Church was completely AGAINST the ideas and actions of Hitler.” I was just pointing out that the Vatican’s actions did not alwasy support those words and it gave aid to the Nazi cause.
 
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There is no evidence Pope Pius XII was involved in plots to kill Hitler.
 
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