SPLIT: Canon law regarding a woman "causing" adultery

[Arrabella]

Canon 1152 “she be the cause” of adultery…how does one know if he/she IS the cause for their partner to stray to another?
This is another anomaly in our Church.
Who can read another’s mind?
A.

 

[MaryT777]

This is utterly ridiculous to think that someone else is the “cause” of the CHOICE someone else made regarding adultery. I wonder what “causes” are acceptable for someone to cheat on their spouse and consider it the fault of their spouse.

Mary.

 

[Jon_S_1]

This is utterly ridiculous to think that someone else is the “cause” of the CHOICE someone else made regarding adultery. I wonder what “causes” are acceptable for someone to cheat on their spouse and consider it the fault of their spouse.

Mary.

I don’t think that canon says what you think it says.

 

[MaryT777]

Did someone force the husband to avail himself to the services of a prostitute? What happens to the concept of free will in this situation?

Mary.

 

[Jon_S_1]

Did someone force the husband to avail himself to the services of a prostitute? What happens to the concept of free will in this situation?

Mary.

There is a shared culpability obviously.

Like if I buy you a gun to kill somebody. That’s on me too.

 

[MaryT777]

There is a shared culpability obviously.

Like if I buy you a gun to kill somebody. That’s on me too.

Obviously, but once again if I buy a gun for someone they don’t need to kill someone with it. That is their choice. That person has free will to report that to the police as well.
Those are rare circumstances I might imagine.

Mary.

 

[MaryT777]

I think the case should be submitted to the tribunal and not the once over opinion of a deacon on one instance of a marriage to determine the validity of the marriage to begin with.

Once again, I doubt the tribunal is overwhelmed with cases of wives hiring prostitutes and then claiming the right to privileges of canon law.

These rare cases are poor examples in my opinion.

Mary.

 

[Jon_S_1]

Obviously, but once again if I buy a gun for someone they don’t need to kill someone with it. That is their choice. That person has free will to report that to the police as well.
Those are rare circumstances I might imagine.

Mary.

But buying a prostitute serves one single purpose.

I am shocked that you see the woman buying her husband a prostitute as innocent. It’s a lot different than buying him coffee mug.

 

[MaryT777]

But buying a prostitute serves one single purpose.

I am shocked that you see the woman buying her husband a prostitute as innocent. It’s a lot different than buying him coffee mug.

I never said it was innocent. I said he is not obligated to make use of his birthday gift; he has free will to say NO. One instance of a marriage cannot determine the validity of a marriage anyone. That needs to be evaluated by the tribunal

Mary.

 

[Jean_Anthony]

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[fpt]

Canon 1152 “she be the cause” of adultery…how does one know if he/she IS the cause for their partner to stray to another?
This is another anomaly in our Church.
Who can read another’s mind?
A.

Can. 1151 Spouses have the duty and right to preserve conjugal living unless a legitimate cause excuses them.

Can. 1152 §1. Although it is earnestly recommended that a spouse, moved by Christian charity and concerned for the good of the family, not refuse forgiveness to an adulterous partner and not disrupt conjugal life, nevertheless, if the spouse did not condone the fault of the other expressly or tacitly, the spouse has the right to sever conjugal living unless the spouse consented to the adultery, gave cause for it, or also committed adultery.

§2. Tacit condonation exists if the innocent spouse has had marital relations voluntarily with the other spouse after having become certain of the adultery. It is presumed, moreover, if the spouse observed conjugal living for six months and did not make recourse to the ecclesiastical or civil authority.

§3. If the innocent spouse has severed conjugal living voluntarily, the spouse is to introduce a cause for separation within six months to the competent ecclesiastical authority which, after having investigated all the circumstances, is to consider carefully whether the innocent spouse can be moved to forgive the fault and not to prolong the separation permanently.

Can. 1153 §1. If either of the spouses causes grave mental or physical danger to the other spouse or to the offspring or otherwise renders common life too diYcult, that spouse gives the other a legitimate cause for leaving, either by decree of the local ordinary or even on his or her own authority if there is danger in delay.

§2. In all cases, when the cause for the separation ceases, conjugal living must be restored unless ecclesiastical authority has established otherwise.

Can. 1154 After the separation of the spouses has taken place, the adequate support and education of the children must always be suitably provided.

Can. 1155 The innocent spouse laudably can readmit the other spouse to conjugal life; in this case the innocent spouse renounces the right to separate.

 

[fpt]

Canon 1152 “she be the cause” of adultery…how does one know if he/she IS the cause for their partner to stray to another?
This is another anomaly in our Church.
Who can read another’s mind?
A.

Legitimate Moral Reasons for “Severing the Conjugal Life”?
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=873282

The repeated refusal of the marital act y [without reasonable reason] can be an one form of provocation to adulter. Reason and Faith, Faith and Reason are the rules