SPLIT: Denying oneself the Eucharist

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I do not receive if I perceive even a venial sin on my soul.
Hmm, sorry, but I don’t think that’s a good idea. You’re being too hard on yourself. You should receive every time you can, unless you’re guilty of mortal sin.
 
Hmm, sorry, but I don’t think that’s a good idea. You’re being too hard on yourself. You should receive every time you can, unless you’re guilty of mortal sin.
You are right. Also receiving the Eucharist forgives venial sin.
 
You are right. Also receiving the Eucharist forgives venial sin.
I know that. I do so as an act of personal devotion, not to be hard on myself. I look at the Eucharist as a privilege which I don’t deserve on the best of days. Perhaps I am bad at explaining it - I do not refrain from the Blessed Sacrament in the instance of venial sin to punish myself (although I have intentionally waited until after Mass to confess before in order to remind myself what it is I voluntarily gave up with my sin), but rather to stand back, watch, learn and listen. I want things to be clear on my end that it is not ok to sin.

My methods sound scrupulous, but that is because I am often lax.

I fear this is off-topic. If others wish to continue this discussion, perhaps another thread should be made.
 
I know that. I do so as an act of personal devotion, not to be hard on myself. I look at the Eucharist as a privilege which I don’t deserve on the best of days. Perhaps I am bad at explaining it - I do not refrain from the Blessed Sacrament in the instance of venial sin to punish myself (although I have intentionally waited until after Mass to confess before in order to remind myself what it is I voluntarily gave up with my sin), but rather to stand back, watch, learn and listen. I want things to be clear on my end that it is not ok to sin.

My methods sound scrupulous, but that is because I am often lax.

I fear this is off-topic. If others wish to continue this discussion, perhaps another thread should be made.
I have a friend that I have known for 5 months. She gave me my first missalette!

Anyway, every now and then we see each other at mass and I notice she never receives communion when I’m there. I have attended mass with her about 5 times.

Since I am learning, I get away with nosy questions. 😃

So I asked here why she doesn’t receive. She said she doesn’t receive unless she has had time to confess the day before.

So I asked, “Is it for mortal…”. She said, no. Venial. I just don’t like to receive communion with venial sins.

Hmm.
 
I have a friend that I have known for 5 months. She gave me my first missalette!

Anyway, every now and then we see each other at mass and I notice she never receives communion when I’m there. I have attended mass with her about 5 times.

Since I am learning, I get away with nosy questions. 😃

So I asked here why she doesn’t receive. She said she doesn’t receive unless she has had time to confess the day before.

So I asked, “Is it for mortal…”. She said, no. Venial. I just don’t like to receive communion with venial sins.

Hmm.
It is perfectly fine to receive with venial sins on your soul - the Eucharist itself heals us of those wounds. I do think that for those who do not receive for devotional reasons should be permitted to do so and not be accused, as I have been a few times, of being scrupulous. When I receive, unless the priest is elderly, my knees hit the marble. I do both in order to glorify our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament - or, at least, to attempt to.

I think sometimes we need to take a step back - so as to not assume that because we go to Mass that we automatically can receive or even have the right to receive. I think sometimes we take for granted the Blessed Sacrament and need to force ourselves into reverence.
 
Hmm, sorry, but I don’t think that’s a good idea. You’re being too hard on yourself. You should receive every time you can, unless you’re guilty of mortal sin.
I agree, the penitential rite (soon to be called penitential act) exists at the beginning of Mass for this reason.
 
Examine your own conscience, you are answerable for yourself. I think there are a lot of people charging up there to receive who would do well to imitate your example. If I am in doubt about my sins, venial OR mortal I do NOT receive. Better to ask for Confession after Mass than to receive when I’m not supposed to.
 
I know that. I do so as an act of personal devotion, not to be hard on myself. I look at the Eucharist as a privilege which I don’t deserve on the best of days. .
this makes as much sense as refusing to take medicine prescribed by a doctor because you don’t feel “worthy”

nobody is worthy to receive communion, not you or me, not the priest, not the pope. We receive as gift. How shoddy to refuse it.
 
this makes as much sense as refusing to take medicine prescribed by a doctor because you don’t feel “worthy”

nobody is worthy to receive communion, not you or me, not the priest, not the pope. We receive as gift. How shoddy to refuse it.
Or more precisely, to refuse to take medicine on the grounds that you are sick

As Jesus pointed out, it is the sick (whatever their level of sickness) who most need a doctor, and so it is sinners, be they mortal or venial, who most need the healing of the appropriate sacraments - confession in the case of all sin, but also Communion in the case of venial sins.

I read a lovely quote from one of the Saints - forget which - who said ‘every time a person receives communion something good happens to every soul on Earth’. Remember we are not the only ones affected when we receive the sacraments, so for the sake of the good it does others you may want to rethink your self-denial.

I know there are many devout souls of times past, saints such as Joan of Arc among them, who seldom communed. Obviously they are devout and saintly regardless, but I can’t help wondering if they might possibly have reached even greater heights of grace with the aid of more frequent communion.
 
this makes as much sense as refusing to take medicine prescribed by a doctor because you don’t feel “worthy”

nobody is worthy to receive communion, not you or me, not the priest, not the pope. We receive as gift. How shoddy to refuse it.
I can see referring someone to their priest, or telling them what you know about venial versus mortal sins but to tell someone they are shoddy is really RUDE!
 
Or more precisely, to refuse to take medicine on the grounds that you are sick

As Jesus pointed out, it is the sick (whatever their level of sickness) who most need a doctor, and so it is sinners, be they mortal or venial, who most need the healing of the appropriate sacraments - confession in the case of all sin, but also Communion in the case of venial sins.

I read a lovely quote from one of the Saints - forget which - who said ‘every time a person receives communion something good happens to every soul on Earth’. Remember we are not the only ones affected when we receive the sacraments, so for the sake of the good it does others you may want to rethink your self-denial.

I know there are many devout souls of times past, saints such as Joan of Arc among them, who seldom communed. Obviously they are devout and saintly regardless, but I can’t help wondering if they might possibly have reached even greater heights of grace with the aid of more frequent communion.
I sometimes don’t take communion for venial sins, it depends on what’s going on. If something is telling me not to, I honor that and discuss it after worship with a priest. I don’t “priest” myself and “ASSume” I’m OK when I don’t feel right. I see nothing wrong with that. BTW, my Associate Pastor/priest told me today about uniting spiritually with Jesus when you don’t feel you should take communion. I have the prayer and it really helps when I can’t take communion.
 
I can see referring someone to their priest, or telling them what you know about venial versus mortal sins but to tell someone they are shoddy is really RUDE!
I don’t believe that “puzzleannie” intended to be rude.
Quite honestly, I understand her statements.

I am having a hard time understanding why anyone who is not in mortal sin,
or otherwise not in communion with the Chruch,
would want to deny themselves the most precious gift of the Eucharist. 🤷:confused:

It is spiritual food to help us as we wage the battle against evil!

I am in the process of “radical sanation” to have my marriage of nearly 20 years validated by the Church. If they do not grant this, I will have to seperate myself from the sacraments. The pain this is causing me is immense. The whole thought of never being able to receive the Eucharist again, is almost too much to bear. But I know, that in the end what ever happens it is God’s will and He will get me through it!:angel1:

None of us is worthy for such a gift, that is what makes it so special,
and to refuse it seems to me, like a smack in the face to Jesus.😦
 
I don’t believe that “puzzleannie” intended to be rude.
Quite honestly, I understand her statements.

I am having a hard time understanding why anyone who is not in mortal sin,
or otherwise not in communion with the Chruch,
would want to deny themselves the most precious gift of the Eucharist. 🤷:confused:

It is spiritual food to help us as we wage the battle against evil!

I am in the process of “radical sanation” to have my marriage of nearly 20 years validated by the Church. If they do not grant this, I will have to seperate myself from the sacraments. The pain this is causing me is immense. The whole thought of never being able to receive the Eucharist again, is almost too much to bear. But I know, that in the end what ever happens it is God’s will and He will get me through it!:angel1:

None of us is worthy for such a gift, that is what makes it so special,
and to refuse it seems to me, like a smack in the face to Jesus.😦
I think that if you don’t feel you should then don’t. If it happens a lot and there doesn’t appear to be a reason then talk to your priest. Don’t let people badger you up to communion…but by all means talk to your priest so ensure it’s not scrupulosity.
 
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