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From another thread:
FrDavid96:
Digitonomy:
Pregustator:
Digitonomy:
MarkThompson:
FrDavid96:
Reprobate means that it has always been a violation of the law (it might be Divine Law or human law). Abrogated, on the other hand, means that it was, at one time, permitted, but is now no longer permitted.
The word reprobate carries a very negative connotation indeed. It implies contempt for the law; moral depravity, unprincipled, etc.
Your definition does not seem to coincide with the meaning of the word as used in the Code of Canon Law. Since the word isn’t used frequently, I’ll quote each use:
Can. 5 §1. Universal or particular customs presently in force which are contrary to the prescripts of these canons and are reprobated by the canons of this Code are absolutely suppressed and are not permitted to revive in the future.Can. 396 §2. A bishop is permitted to choose the clerics he prefers as companions and assistants on a visitation; any contrary privilege or custom is reprobated.Can. 423 §1. One diocesan administrator is to be designated; any contrary custom is reprobated.Can. 526 §2. In the same parish there is to be only one pastor or moderator in accord with the norm of ⇒ can. 517, §1; any contrary custom is reprobated and any contrary privilege whatsoever is revoked.Can. 1076 A custom which introduces a new [marriage] impediment or is contrary to existing impediments is reprobated.Can. 1287 §1. Both clerical and lay administrators of any ecclesiastical goods whatever which have not been legitimately exempted from the power of governance of the diocesan bishop are bound by their office to present an annual report to the local ordinary who is to present it for examination by the finance council; any contrary custom is reprobated.My suspicion is that you’re thinking back to Canon 24, where we are told that a custom which is reprobated is not reasonable and therefore can’t obtain the force of law:Can. 1425 §1. With every contrary custom reprobated, the following cases are reserved to a collegiate tribunal of three judges:
However, it’s pretty clear from the use of “reprobated” elsewhere in the CIC that customs or privileges which are reprobated may once have been perfectly fine. The unwritten implication in Canon 24 is that such customs are not reasonable under the current Code of Canon Law. Simply from the use of the word “reprobated” we can’t conclude that the use of glass or other currently illicit materials was never legitimate or proper. What we can say is that it is not reasonable or licit now.Can. 24 §2. A custom contrary to or beyond canon law (praeter ius canonicum) cannot obtain the force of law unless it is reasonable; a custom which is expressly reprobated in the law, however, is not reasonable.
What does “reprobated” mean, in Canon Lawnglish? Does it mean “is a grave offense against God’s Majesty” or does it mean “formerly fine, but we changed our mind and now we’d rather you didn’t do it”? Anyone know?
I see no reason to depart from the standard definition we get from Merriam-Webster:
However, despite FrDavid’s comment and part of the definition above, I don’t think the Church is characterizing reprobated customs as evil or damnable.1: to condemn strongly as unworthy, unacceptable, or evil
2: to foreordain to damnation
3: to refuse to accept : reject
It’s also worth noting that “reprobate” is etymologically related to “reprove.”
I think this is correct. The Latin verb reprobo means “reject, disapprove,” but to my knowledge it does not carry the connotations of moral hideousness that “reprobate” (as a very or as a noun) does in English. So under a reasonable reading, you’d have merely “… contrary custom is rejected” and the like.
It (reprobate) might not carry the exact same meanings in Latin as it does in English (which has a much stronger connotation of “evil”), but the English definition does help us to put the use of the word into context. Since the word connotes “evil” in English, it’s difficult to say that the word in Latin means that it was at-one-time perfectly legitimate. It’s the difference between saying that the word is stronger in English than in Latin; and saying that the word means the opposite in the two languages.