SPLIT: No Nicene Creed--Mass Valid?

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I went to a Mass this morning (Ascension) where the Creed, or anything similiar, wasn’t said (at least as far as I could tell). Should I try to go again to another Mass or did that one fulfill my obligation?

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J. S. Sebastiano P.
 
I know this is an old thread but I wanted to ask…

I went to a Mass this morning (Ascension) where the Creed, or anything similiar, wasn’t said (at least as far as I could tell). Should I try to go again to another Mass or did that one fulfill my obligation?

Thanks in advance,

J. S. Sebastiano P.
Apparently your diocese transferred the holiday to the coming Sunday, to avoid problems for those who had to work today, which is forbidden of Holy Days of obligations for many jobs. Your Mass on Sunday will fulfill the obligation.
 
Apparently your diocese transferred the holiday to the coming Sunday, to avoid problems for those who had to work today, which is forbidden of Holy Days of obligations for many jobs. Your Mass on Sunday will fulfill the obligation.
No, I’m in Archdiocese of NY, which kept it today. And it was the Mass for the Ascension, with those readings etc…

Thanks… But my question is still, provided that it was a Holy day of Obligation and the Creed (or some other suitable act) is ommitted, should I go to Mass again?
 
if you have a question about the way Mass is celebrated in a given parish the first step always is to simply ask the pastor. The times the Creed is skipped on Sunday have to do with baptism or one of the RCIA rites where that replaces the profession of faith. He may also have another reason. Ask.
 
To more directly answer your question, no creed is required for a mass to be valid. Remember that there were valid masses before the Nicene Creed or Apostles Creed were ever composed.
 
It could be that the priest just forgot that we pray the creed on Holy Days as well as Sundays. It’s no big deal, Mass is still valid.
 
If the priest changes the words of consecration, the mass is invalid. Or if the priest is an impostor. I don’t think there’s much else. It’s good to ask questions but don’t worry too much. I’ve been a Catholic for 64 years and have only ever been to one mass I knew was invalid because the priest had dementia and skipped part or all of the consecration. The bishop finally took action, thank God.
 
If the priest changes the words of consecration, the mass is invalid. Or if the priest is an impostor. I don’t think there’s much else. It’s good to ask questions but don’t worry too much. I’ve been a Catholic for 64 years and have only ever been to one mass I knew was invalid because the priest had dementia and skipped part or all of the consecration. The bishop finally took action, thank God.
The other two things would be if he is not using bread and wine, or if he does not intend to perform the sacrament (for instance, because he is giving a demonstration).

It is important, though, to point out that the questions of a “valid Mass” and a “valid Eucharist” are not the same thing. In this regard, think about Canon 927 of the Code of Canon Law:
It is absolutely forbidden, even in extreme urgent necessity, to consecrate one matter without the other or even both outside the eucharistic celebration.
Theoretically – this is what’s being forbidden here – a priest could consecrate the Eucharist outside of Mass, just by saying the words of consecration over bread and wine with the intent to effect the consecration.

So we can see that the Mass, as such, consists of more than the Eucharist. You cannot have a Mass without the Eucharist, but a valid Eucharist alone does not guarantee that you have a valid Mass. For instance, if the priest omits the Offertory or neglects to communicate himself, the Eucharist is validly consecrated and people who received Communion have indeed received the Blessed Sacrament, but even so you have not actually had a Mass, because the Mass requires all the elements of the Sacrifice.
 
It could be that the priest just forgot that we pray the creed on Holy Days as well as Sundays. It’s no big deal, Mass is still valid.
Sometimes at certain Masses if the priest is aware there’s a lot of commuters or people on their lunch break, he’ll skip the Gloria/Creed as a way of helping them get to work on time.
 
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