SPLIT: Questions Catholics Will Not Answer.

[SyCarl]

The Ark in Heaven (theotokos) is the Woman who is the mother of Jesus. (Theotokos)

You mean the first Father to write on the subject of the Book of Revelation? I have no idea.

How would they have not recognized her, though? Does Jesus have two mothers, now?

How does Revelation 12 support the Assumption, even if the woman is Mary? While it is true that the sign appeared in Heaven, when the dragon was thrown down to earth he was still able to pursue the woman which would mean the vision showed her two places with the last being on earth, not in Heaven.

 

[guanophore]

Are you saying you must take the Eucharist to be saved?

The answer is on the transubtantiation thread.

 

[Pwrlftr]

The Ark in Heaven (theotokos) is the Woman who is the mother of Jesus. (Theotokos)

You mean the first Father to write on the subject of the Book of Revelation? I have no idea.

How would they have not recognized her, though? Does Jesus have two mothers, now?

It is my understanding that most of the ECF’s saw the woman as being the church, not Mary.

 

[justasking4]

“Just” Christ? According to our ability, we need to believe everything He gives us. I don’t know what “just” Christ means. For me, “just” Christ is kind of an amorphous term.

Paul is quite clear in Romans 10:9-10 what is required to be saved. –
"9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

Does a catholic have to go beyond this to be saved?

 

[SyCarl]

Augustine is a Catholic Bishop of Hippo, and he believe in the Real Presence.

MMmph, Carl. It seems like St. Augustine contradicted himself. I doubt it. It amazes me that Protestants use a Catholic bishop to claim he believe in Symbolizing the Real Presence in John 6…

At this point I am not dealing with what Augustine believed about the Real Presence. I am just saying that his sermons on John 6 don’t support transubstantiation. I believe in a Real Presence too, not just in the same way as Catholics.

 

[Mannyfit75]

Manny, could you tell me where I can find the complete text of Sermons 227 and 172? I have never been able to find them any where.

The links I gave may not work since I can’t seem open the fathers portion of New Advent.

I have read those and I also read another Sermon that show that he believed in Real Presence. I would look for it completely. I came across the sermon I forgot which one but St. Augustine does believe in Real Presence, not Symbolism of the Real Presence.

 

[mercygate]

The Ark in Heaven (theotokos) is the Woman who is the mother of Jesus. (Theotokos)

You mean the first Father to write on the subject of the Book of Revelation? I have no idea.

How would they have not recognized her, though? Does Jesus have two mothers, now?

I’m tired and may be aiming off target, but this seems to be a pretty good general article on belief in the Assumption.

 

[mercygate]

You mean the first Father to write on the subject of the Book of Revelation? I have no idea.

How would they have not recognized her, though? Does Jesus have two mothers, now?

It is my understanding that most of the ECF’s saw the woman as being the church, not Mary.
We see her as Mary, the Church, or even as Israel.

 

[DarkMark]

Paul is quite clear in Romans 10:9-10 what is required to be saved. –
"9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

Does a catholic have to go beyond this to be saved?

And in Acts we read:

Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brethren, what shall we do?” And Peter said to them, "Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. (Acts 2:37-38).

Jesus, like Saint Paul, believed in the necessarily of Baptism in regards to Salvation (it is way to forgive our sins, as well as making us Sons of God, and reborn into His Church):

“He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.” (Mark 16:16).

According to the Bible, Baptism and the Eucharist is necessary for Salvation. However, Catholics, like most Protestants [who believe in faith alone, since they believe infants go to heaven no matter what], believed that that are exceptions to this rule (i…e, infants, etc).

 

[guanophore]

Huh? The historical evidence for the resurrection is one of if not the best attested event in acient world. To have over 500 people who witnessed the risen Christ would hold up quite well in a court of law.

Perhaps, but they are not here now. Who were they? where are their writings? You can say they existed,a nd would give testimony, but that is only speculation, since they don’t exist, and have left no testimony.

 

[guanophore]

Does a catholic have to have faith more than just Christ to be saved?

Christ is in all, through all, and for all. When He told the Apostles to make disciples, and “teaching all that I have commanded”, baptizing them, He meant ALL. He is not separated from His commandments, an salvation is not separated from keeping them.

 

[guanophore]

Paul is quite clear in Romans 10:9-10 what is required to be saved. –
"9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

Does a catholic have to go beyond this to be saved?

A CAtholic recognizes that there are many verses like this that give information relevant to salvation, and that all of them must be taken as a whole to understand the clear meaning.

 

[EphelDuath]

Paul is quite clear in Romans 10:9-10 what is required to be saved. –
"9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation.

Does a catholic have to go beyond this to be saved?

Confessing that Jesus is Lord (faith) begins your process of salvation. Note that Paul says that you will be saved, not that you are guaranteed salvation. Compare this to Pauline theology of salvation:

Ephesians 2:5 - you have been saved
1 Corinthians 1:18 - you are being saved
1 Corinthians 3:15 - you will be saved

 

[juliamajor]

Huh? The historical evidence for the resurrection is one of if not the best attested event in acient world. To have over 500 people who witnessed the risen Christ would hold up quite well in a court of law. I remember reading somewhere that it takes only 2 or 3 eyewitnesses to convict a person of a serious crime. To have this kind of evidence based on eyewitness accounts over a period of time and in different circumstances makes it a sure thing. Keep in mind that I Cor was probably written before 60 AD. Thats within 30 years of the event. Its absolutely astounding how good it is.

There is a big difference between this and what i previously wrote. You don’t have anything close to the time of Mary before you read any reports about it. In fact catholic scholars admit that its quite late and they don’t know what exactly happened to her.

In What Extrabiblical source is it attested to-I’d like to know? What source-? it is a matter of faith- not History!

 

[Old_Scholar]

My beloved brother in Christ, The Teachings of The Catholic Church are in full concert with both Sacred Tradition and Scripture.Furthermore the New Testament is part of Tradition. You are aware, I’m sure, that the Church predates the New Testament writings.

BTW, as to the OP, your “questions which Catholics will not answer” have all been answered multiple times. So I hope that in the future, as a matter of honesty, you will not make such a false claim again.

Your servant in Christ.

I guess I’m just pretty dumb then as I haven’t read the answers. Would you be so kind as to point them out to me?

Thank you!

 

[Mannyfit75]

At this point I am not dealing with what Augustine believed about the Real Presence. I am just saying that his sermons on John 6 don’t support transubstantiation. I believe in a Real Presence too, not just in the same way as Catholics.

Transtubstantiation does support his views. Transtubstantiation affirms that at the words of consecration, the appearance of bread and wine remains the same, it is no longer ordinary bread and wine. What we received is Body and Blood of Our Lord. This is consistent belief.

transtubstantiation is no different than the word Trinity in the Bible. We believe the Body and Blood of the Lord becomes presence before us. We are invited in the wedding feast of the lamb in our Liturgy.

 

[Old_Scholar]

Perhaps, but they are not here now. Who were they? where are their writings? You can say they existed,a nd would give testimony, but that is only speculation, since they don’t exist, and have left no testimony.

So you don’t believe that part of the New Testament was written by eyewitnesses?

What do you believe?

 

[Old_Scholar]

If you want to know why his apostles didn’t start biting him, they believed that Jesus would give them his flesh to eat. He specifically says: “I am the living bread that came down from heaven. If anyone eats of this bread, he will live forever. This bread is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” John 6:51. You see, Jesus is the one that will give His flesh, which of course he did at the last supper just as he promised. He also told them he would give them his body - not a bit a of bicep or ear or some other body part.

In summary. Jesus told His disciples that He would give them His flesh to eat, not to come bite off a piece of His flesh. That’s why they didn’t.

I hope this helps you.

Thanks but I am not the one who needs help.

 

[EphelDuath]

So you don’t believe that part of the New Testament was written by eyewitnesses?

That is not what he said. Cut your mudthrowing if you claim to be a Christian.

 

[Church_Militant]

I have to disagree. **Any Christians who disagrees with the Catholic Church **

teachings is Anti-Catholic. That’s just me…especially if they believe the Catholic Church teaches false doctrines. People like these exchange the truth for a lie like I said many times before.Sorry Manny… but I believe there is a vast difference between PL and the other two…both in his comments and his attitude.

I don’t believe he qualifies as an a-C.