SPLIT: What is Objective Truth?

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Objective truth is the belief that truth is not subject to opinion or belief; it simply is truth

Subjective truth is the belief that truth is subject to opinion or belief; it is true because someone beliefs or thinks it is

Absolute truth is the belief that there are truthes which are universal

Relative truth is the belief that there are no universal truthes
I would disagree with these statements.

You see, I think there are objective truths (e.g. there is a God), as well as subjective truths (e.g. chocolate tastes good). Chocolate is not objectively tasty, believe it or not. It depends on the subject perceiving it.

What you mean to say is that subjectivism is the belief that all truth is determined by one’s own perceptions/feelings/opinions, etc. Subjectivism is a kind of philosophy, whereas subjective truth is a kind of legitimate truth, though of course not as superior a one to objective truth.

I would also say the same for absolute and relative truths. They are both legitimate. Relativism, that is the belief that there are no universal truths, is a heresy. There are relative truths though. Brotherhood, for example, operates on a concept of relativity. I think an example to illustrate this is the statement, “I have been to California.” That statement is true relative to what year we are talking about. In the 1980’s, that statement would be false, whereas if it were in the 2000’s, then it would be true. There is an element of relativity there. It is true that we could easily turn it into an absolute truth by saying, “In the 2000, I had been to California.” But the previous statement was a relative truth. Thus, both relative and absolute truths exist. To deny one or the other would be an error.
 
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With all sincerity, I’d like to know what you’re referring to when you say, “objective truth.”
What is “objective truth” to you? In your view, how does that differ from any other type of “truth?” Is there a “subjective truth?” Is there an “objective untruth?” Etc., etc. And what is the context of “objective truth” in your last post?
Further (and again, with all sincerity), how do you quantify “objective truth” in a manner so that you can discern who knows, and who doesn’t know about, “objective truth?”
Thanks. I look forward to your reply.
***Both the Late Great Pope John Paul II and our current Supreme Pontiff, have articulated the fact [the objective truth] that on any specific topic, there can be but one single truth. Pope Benedict explained further “that their cannot be my truth and your truth, or there would be NO TRUTH.”

My idea of an “Objective Truth” is:

It is in whole THEE Truth

It is proveable and

It is verifible***

Yes to all the other questions. “Subjective truth” is ones own opinion, does not need to be verifible and proveable to be held as “truth” BUT is not THE truth, and thus at best only is partial true, and may not actually contain any truth.

Certainly there can be untruth’s we call them lies. 😃

Love and prayers
 
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