SPLIT: Why are Catholics accused of denying the Eucharist to Homosexuals?

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Justin_Mee said:
I don’t even know what to do. My first Lent and no one has given us any instruction on what to do or how to plan. Would you enlighten me a little?
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AH!

First of all do you understand what Lent is?

I will run down some of the basics since I dont know what you may or may not know.

Lent begins on Ash Wednesday. It’s a season of penance (repentance) and comes from Our Lord going into the desert and fasting for 40 days prior to His choosing the 12 apostles.

Technically it goes from Ash Weds to Holy Thrus (the Thrus right before Good Friday, the day that Our Lord instituted the Eucharist at the Passover)

Holy Thrus, Good Friday, Holy Sat is known as the Triduum.

(If you would count the days from Ash Wed-Holy Thrus you would find 46 days to be exact, but that is because Sundays are not included in the 40 days. All Sunday’s are seen as mini-Easter through out the year)

The idea of Lent is a time of reflection, a time of penance, and time of alms giving, a time of prayer. The liturgical colors you will see are purple. (like you did in Advent)

Many think of something to “give up” in Lent for the 40 days. Or “fast from”. Some do things like giving up chocolate, or booze, or sweets. Some will give up some activity (for me I wont be on my computer in forums like this). Some will give up say TV.

Find something that would be something of a “fast” for you to give up to help remind you to stay focused on the Lord.

Also some people try not only to “give up” something, but to add something. Some try to make daily Mass. Others try to read the scriptures for about 10 minuets a day or say the rosary.

During Lent, both Ash Weds and Good Fridays are BOTH days of abstinance (no meat) and fasting (only one meal a day, as long as you dont have any medical conditions that would other wise prohibit you)

And EVERY Friday during Lent is a day of abstinence (no meat).

The whole idea is to prepare ourselves by repenting, by trying more earnestly to drawing closer to the Lord and purifying our souls.

Its a time to reflect before we celebrate the joy of Easter!! 🙂

Does that help?
 
Marie5890 said:
AH!

First of all do you understand what Lent is?

I will run down some of the basics since I dont know what you may or may not know.

Lent begins on Ash Wednesday. It’s a season of penance (repentance) and comes from Our Lord going into the desert and fasting for 40 days prior to His choosing the 12 apostles.

Technically it goes from Ash Weds to Holy Thrus (the Thrus right before Good Friday, the day that Our Lord instituted the Eucharist at the Passover)

Holy Thrus, Good Friday, Holy Sat is known as the Triduum.

(If you would count the days from Ash Wed-Holy Thrus you would find 46 days to be exact, but that is because Sundays are not included in the 40 days. All Sunday’s are seen as mini-Easter through out the year)

The idea of Lent is a time of reflection, a time of penance, and time of alms giving, a time of prayer. The liturgical colors you will see are purple. (like you did in Advent)

Many think of something to “give up” in Lent for the 40 days. Or “fast from”. Some do things like giving up chocolate, or booze, or sweets. Some will give up some activity (for me I wont be on my computer in forums like this). Some will give up say TV.

Find something that would be something of a “fast” for you to give up to help remind you to stay focused on the Lord.

Also some people try not only to “give up” something, but to add something. Some try to make daily Mass. Others try to read the scriptures for about 10 minuets a day or say the rosary.

During Lent, both Ash Weds and Good Fridays are BOTH days of abstinance (no meat) and fasting (only one meal a day, as long as you dont have any medical conditions that would other wise prohibit you)

And EVERY Friday during Lent is a day of abstinence (no meat).

The whole idea is to prepare ourselves by repenting, by trying more earnestly to drawing closer to the Lord and purifying our souls.

Its a time to reflect before we celebrate the joy of Easter!! 🙂

Does that help?
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Yes, very much. A good thumbnail sketch of Lent. I don’t know what to give up but I will come up with something. Beets and brussel sprouts come to mind. I will put reminders on my Outlook.
 
peary1 said:
Only those who don’t have a measurable IQ. 😛
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And those who have been brainwashed.

The spirit of the “Reformation” is still alive, although theres a ladys footprint on the top of his head.
 
Tantum_ergo said:
But no green font. or large sizes.

I cannot thank the moderators enough for dealing with that thread as they did.

I wonder if there is a ‘cyberspace’ equivalent of a large trashcan. . .if so, that is how I picture that thread disappearing into. . .

Filed in the ‘circular’ file. . .🙂

I say go check out the casserole thread. Yum.

It’s tuna casserole for me tomorrow (Friday you know). Tuna is the ONLY fish that I can eat provided it is covered by cream of celery soup, noodles, peas, and buttered bread crumbs, especially if after it comes bubbling out of the oven one can put on some fresh pepper from pepper mill and a dash of Mrs. Dash!

Especially if I make some fresh buttermilk biscuits to go alongside. . .
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I couldn’t eat hot tunafish if it was the only food left on earth. I’d finally lose some weight if that’s all that was ever served.
 
Newbie2 said:
Quite right.

There are, however, circumstances for denying the Eucharist to someone in a state of unrepentant mortal sin.

FMI, what is the Lutheran take on possible denial of communion? I don’t recall any discussion of this from my Lutheran days. What was hammered into us in catechism was not to take communion if you approached it in an unworthy manner, i.e. were not properly disposed to receive it with humility and a penitant heart.
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A Lutheran pastor can refuse to commune someone. I 've not often heard of it being done, and of course Lutherans have a bit of a different take on mortal/venial sins. Your experience was much like mine when I was in catechetical class. I guess it could be said that these are similar expressions, unrepentant mortal sin, and an unpenetant heart.

Jon
 
Its called mercy. A practicing Homosexual that recieves communion eats and drinks damnation.

A flawed human(we are all flawed) that has these particular flawed tendencies and abstains from them is probabley going to have an encounter with Christ in communion that we can only dream of.
 
agent_grey said:
A flawed human(we are all flawed) that has these particular flawed tendencies and abstains from them is probabley going to have an encounter with Christ in communion that we can only dream of.
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And Fr. Benedict Groeschel says that there are probably more than a few canonized saints who heroically fought that affliction.
 
PS
Off topic, but:
Parents should show sense when they name their children.
Why in blazes are effeminate or “weak” names inflicted on sons, and less than feminine names inflicted on daughters?!
Parents point to their helpless newborn baby son and say: “We name thee ‘Robin’ (or Myron, Sidney, Alistair, Beverley etc).” A sitting duck for name-calling.
Bloody cruel! For men at least, lousy names have been shown to cause hardship in all sorts of areas. Righto, so Grandpa Robin might be narked if the poor little beggar is named something else. Let him be narked!
The same goes for Aunty Gertrude.
Or the idiotic names in some TV show.
 
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