SPLIT: Why so little support for the EF?

[zab]

Is this being represented correctly? Yes it is .

I don’t think he has his facts straight. In the Old Mass people always stood whenever the priest sang (except for the Epistle). And now he credits the new liturgy for that?
He did not mention the priest singing. He said that the altar servers remained kneeling. It was mentioned on another thread that no instructions for posture were given at the Latin Mass and people took their cue from the altar servers. This is what he was referring to when he said, “I suspect that the people should have remained kneeling too.”

Here’s another one:

I can’t remember the last time I heard any offertory prayers in many OFs I attended. Unless there is an Offertory hymn being sung, we usually hear the priest praying the offertory prayers at the OF

Hey, if you’re going to knock something, at least show some credibility and no "maybe"s.

 

[bobballen_18]

zab, I have served Low Masses in the EF but never a High Mass, so I can’t say for sure whether it is normal for servers to stay kneeling during the Pater Noster in the EF High Mass; I can say for sure that at least at every single EF High Mass I’ve been to (I can’t remember what the servers do…every time I go to the High Mass these days it’s because I’m focused on the music side of it since that’s what I’m responsible for), the congregation does stand for the Our Father.

Regarding the Offertory, it’s an option in the OF for it to be silent, hymn/offertory antiphon or not.

 

[zab]

zab, I have served Low Masses in the EF but never a High Mass, so I can’t say for sure whether it is normal for servers to stay kneeling during the Pater Noster in the EF High Mass; I can say for sure that at least at every single EF High Mass I’ve been to (I can’t remember what the servers do…every time I go to the High Mass these days it’s because I’m focused on the music side of it since that’s what I’m responsible for), the congregation does stand for the Our Father.

Regarding the Offertory, it’s an option in the OF for it to be silent, hymn/offertory antiphon or not.

I think you are correct regarding standing for the Our Father at high Masses. The people stay kneeling more at low Masses. I just don’t see any point in the sever criticism of the priest author over it.

 

[ProVobis]

I think this is why Pope Francis message about Gods mercy I want so very much to be true. I want it to be true so much.

Well, it’s right there in the very first line of the Canon (or EP1) and has been since the early centuries:

Te igitur, clementissime Pater.…

This is the superlative form of Merciful Father. Can’t be more merciful than that.

 

[MissRose73]

My diocese in my state is the ONLY one that has no diocesan EF Mass offered. I know of at least 20 to 30 people that travel to a different in-state diocesan EF, and for some of them they go to both forms (OF in their home parish, travel for the EF) and the others just attend the EF. I am not sure if there are more out there that would return to the faith if the EF was made available in 1 church in my diocese. We do have contacts in other dioceses that can assist with training servers, priests, and providing missalettes/hymnals for the laity to use. There are some priests in my diocese that I believe with training could offer the EF as they already offer very reverent OF Masses. Prayers are needed for sure as I believe people should learn about the various traditions & have the chance to experience them at least one time in their lives – OF, EF, EC Divine Liturgies.