Sportswriter bashes QB's for faith!

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He doesn’t look like a happy guy (see his pic) …the author who wrote this. I feel deep sadness for those who ridicule, or mock those who have faith…or negatively talk about people who have faith, as if they are fools or something. I will pray for this author…that his bitterness towards others doesn’t destroy his writing career. Personally, I thought it was such a bizarre article…like what was his ultimate beef? That people thank God, who are successful? :confused:
 
I think what that writer fails to realize is that few people believe God directly impacts the outcome of a ball game; I doubt, seriously, even Tim Tebow and Colt McCoy believe God ensured their teams’ victory.

Colt McCoy said, “I want to thank my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Without Him, none of this is possible.”

“none of this…” implies life, his ability, etc, etc, etc. I doubt he was implying that God took over his body and threw touchdown passes.

People like that writer are a small part of what’s wrong with America.
 
First of all, let me say that this guy is overly cynical and more than a little bit obnoxious. The article comes down thoroughly opposed to religion in sports in a way that just seems angry to me.

Secondly, though, he did hit on a particular pet peeve of mine. There are a few people in sports (Kurt Warner is one, Adam Vinatieri is another) who genuinely seem to act like God wants them to win the game. It drives me up a wall. Adam Vinatieri says that he believes God wanted the Patriots to win the Super Bowl; what, there’s nobody religious on the Rams? Kurt Warner talks about his faith in God and how God arranged things for him to get a chance to start for the Rams; what, Trent Green doesn’t go to church and so God makes sure he gets hurt?

The worst example, unfortunately, is somebody I wanted to like: former Notre Dame coach Gerry Faust. His unfortunate habits of yelling at players to say a Hail Mary on third downs was ridiculous. Pray before the game that nobody gets hurt, and that everyone does their best, but praying to win? What, nobody on Purdue or Michigan was Catholic? God likes Gerry Faust better than Bo Schembechler?

Maybe its just my personal impression, but not every outspoken Christian in the sports world is really selfless and noble. It just seems to me that some of the well known ones are just filtering the arrogance that has infiltrated sports through a religious lens of “God likes me better!” Or maybe watching professional sports just makes me cynical in that department.
 
I’m a huge football fan, and a devout Catholic, and I also have a hard time believing God is rooting for any particular team (except when Boston College demolishes Notre Dame, yet again.)

Did we read the same article??? What I got from it is that faith is an important intangible that helps athletes, whether they are Christian, Muslim…whatever. He also puts down those who would, disingenuously, tout their adherence to a particular faith (Tyson.)

“But a system of belief — any system, really — that stills the mind and quells doubt is of obvious benefit, particularly if you’re an athlete.”

While it’s clear that the writer (AWFUL photo, btw) isn’t religious himself, he acknowledges the role that faith has played in the success of many athletes, in this instance Kurt Warner. I just didn’t get the negative vibe, and writing (along with lots of reading) is my thing.
 
I don’t get Fox sometimes. Some of their primetime shows have been more then explicit with sexual and violence content. Their news network pushes conservative values. Their sports department can’t make up their mind which way they want to go.

4 years ago a guy on Fox really went out of his way to point out how stupid we Christians are.
 
dixieagle said:
Did we read the same article??? What I got from it is that faith is an important intangible that helps athletes, whether they are Christian, Muslim…whatever. He also puts down those who would, disingenuously, tout their adherence to a particular faith (Tyson.)

“But a system of belief — any system, really — that stills the mind and quells doubt is of obvious benefit, particularly if you’re an athlete.”
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You’re right. The article didn’t seem particularly anti-religious to me. And like the author, I did enjoy Joe Namath and Kenny Stabler.
 
dixieagle said:
Did we read the same article??? What I got from it is that faith is an important intangible that helps athletes, whether they are Christian, Muslim…whatever. He also puts down those who would, disingenuously, tout their adherence to a particular faith (Tyson.)

“But a system of belief — any system, really — that stills the mind and quells doubt is of obvious benefit, particularly if you’re an athlete.”

While it’s clear that the writer (AWFUL photo, btw) isn’t religious himself, he acknowledges the role that faith has played in the success of many athletes, in this instance Kurt Warner. I just didn’t get the negative vibe, and writing (along with lots of reading) is my thing.
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I got the same thing out of this article, too. It’s the reason I believe our 8-8 Chargers made it to the playoffs…with the help of faithful, Mass-going Catholic Phillip Rivers 👍
 
And to think a couple of years ago the league made Ben Roethlisberger stop writing PFJ (Play For Jesus) on the toes of his shoes…? :confused:

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JimG said:
You’re right. The article didn’t seem particularly anti-religious to me. And like the author, I did enjoy Joe Namath and Kenny Stabler.
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I’m a transplanted Yankee who has lived 30+years in the DEEP south (AL.) We get more than our fair share of Kenny Stabler, who is a colorful character, to say the least. Joe Namath recently completed his degree at Univ. of Alabama, I was glad to hear.

But I digress…
 
Tonks40 said:
I got the same thing out of this article, too. It’s the reason I believe our 8-8 Chargers made it to the playoffs…with the help of faithful, Mass-going Catholic Phillip Rivers 👍
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Way to go, Phillip! (Though Matt Ryan is my NFL guy.)
 
What a stupid argument. Warner was able to make a come back, because his faith allowed him to not worry about the odds.

“On some cognitive level, Warner had to know what the rest of us understood too well. Grocery clerks don’t often make it to the NFL. Iowa Barnstormers don’t go on to become Super Bowl MVPs. Nor do old men beat out Heisman Trophy winners. For Warner to have considered his predicaments in rational terms might well have killed his dream. Statistical analysis frequently inflicts a death by discouragement. But, then, a guy like Warner isn’t playing the odds. He’s working on faith.”

If someone is going to beat out a Heisman Trophy winner as an old guy, the odds on favorite is at the quarterback position that can happen. Maybe if it was the CFL, the dream of beating out a Heisman winner by an old QB might be a little harder.

If anyone one playing the NFL is worried about looking to statistics to think they are going to play, they probably aren’t going to play. I’m guessing each one thinks they can play, and want to try to compete to do so.
 
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