Spread of Islam in England

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When people meet Simon Cowell or Piers Morgan, they suddenly know England. Islam was never in the top list of studies until it literally struck America and now we have ‘experts’ in the religion. Education can be a fascinating discovery.
 
redhen said:
This kind of fallacy is called “poisoning the well”. Either the source statement is true or false. If it is true, it doesn’t matter where it came from.

Sometimes all it takes is mention in a non-mainstream media like the Daily Mail to embarrass officials.
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The Daily Mail is very, very mainstream. They are know for this kind of stuff. They also gave a very favourable opinion of a certain Herr Hitler during the late 1930’s I believe.

Their modus operandi is to blame the current flavour of the month immigrant group (or gays) for all the evils of the world. I remember when it was me they were talking about.
 
Too bad we can’t find a scapegoat on which to blame all this. Any ideas?
 
Hi

The discussion is that all revealed religions from God Allah are peaceful and spread peacefully improving the social conditions, morals and spirituality of the people. It is true that the politicians and vested clergy try this peaceful movement to derail it and project it in terms of their vested interests, that is to be understood.

We common people of the world, the men in the street, have to expose them, and stregthen our natural bond of love and friendship to establish long lasting peace in the world and for us and for our so loving future generations.

Islam spread in England peacefully; no attacking army struck England for spread of Islam there.

I love Jesus and Mary as I do love Buddha and Krishna.

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OP,

Why? One, immigration of Muslims, which personally I think they should be restricted. Personal opinion though 🙂

Second, if people openly attempt to refute Islam (which isn’t a difficult task, as Islamic doctrine is full of holes and clearly a combination of several religions which inspired it and gave it doctrines), then they are potentially threatened with death. Some people have been killed in EUROPE for questioning Islam.
 
Roamin_Xian said:
OP,

Why? One, immigration of Muslims, which personally I think they should be restricted. Personal opinion though 🙂
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Have you any knowledge of the UK and EU immigration policies?

Who do you think have been the main immigrant group to the UK in the last decade?
 
Hi

Sorry to interrupt you.

My emphasis was that Islam spread peacefully in many parts of the world due to its simple and rational teachings which develop physical, moral and spiritual faculties of a people. This is the main power of this great religion that attracts everybody, the rulers as also the ruled.

I don’t think that anybody from Islam attacked UK with armies now or in the past.It were the Muslim individual missionaries with their zeal always with them who went everywhere in the world when they were involved in their trade or other professions, sometimes they went in the wake of the Monarchs and often without them. Sometimes they were slaves and workers but they did their work and the religious zeal within them spread out to others.

From Muhammad onward this has been the phenomenon, in my opinion.

I love Zoroaster and Socrates as I do love Jesus and Mary

Thanks
 
Kaninchen said:
Have you any knowledge of the UK and EU immigration policies?

Who do you think have been the main immigrant group to the UK in the last decade?
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I’ve kept tabs; I believe I’ve read that the UK is getting stringent over non-EU immigrants. I understand that the non-muslim immigrants have been Poles and Eastern Europeans.
 
Roamin_Xian said:
I’ve kept tabs; I believe I’ve read that the UK is getting stringent over non-EU immigrants.
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For a very long time.
I understand that the non-muslim immigrants have been Poles and Eastern Europeans.
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About a million Poles since May 2004 - rather puts the UK’s 1.6 million Muslim population (out of 60 million) into some perspective, I’d suggest.
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi

Sorry to interrupt you.

My emphasis was that Islam spread peacefully in many parts of the world due to its simple and rational teachings which develop physical, moral and spiritual faculties of a people. This is the main power of this great religion that attracts everybody, the rulers as also the ruled.

I don’t think that anybody from Islam attacked UK with armies now or in the past.It were the Muslim individual missionaries with their zeal always with them who went everywhere in the world when they were involved in their trade or other professions, sometimes they went in the wake of the Monarchs and often without them. Sometimes they were slaves and workers but they did their work and the religious zeal within them spread out to others.

From Muhammad onward this has been the phenomenon, in my opinion.

I love Zoroaster and Socrates as I do love Jesus and Mary

Thanks
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Are you saying that the muslim governments that preach hate, anti-semitism, and terrorism are apostate muslims?
 
Chris_LaRock said:
Are you saying that the muslim governments that preach hate, anti-semitism, and terrorism are apostate muslims?
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I must say that the individuals, groups,politicians. rulers,governments that preach hate, anti-semitism, and terrorism have not understood Quran/Islam/Muhammad correctly. They should improve their understanding, definitely.

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Submission said:
Clear false information, why would they want themselves killed?
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Excuse me, but I have seen video of these people chanting “bomb, bomb usa. bomb, bomb uk.” I didn’t just pull that out of my ear. There are videos of it online if you want to look at them.
 
paarsurrey said:
forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=4563225&postcount=9 So Islam spreads peacefully in England. Thanks
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For now, maybe. Any terrorist arrests lately? Islam has historically been passive when not in power, and aggressive when seeking power. Things will not stay the same as they are in England for centuries and centuries. They never do. Everywhere in the world there will be a contest between the legal systems of shariah and civil law, or other religious courts, such as the Baha’i House of Justice. When they clash, it will be seen what the priorities really are for the communities. God watches all this with an eye that already knows the outcome, but allows us to choose how humanity will govern itself as a species on this planet.
 
DavidMark said:
For now, maybe. Any terrorist arrests lately? Islam has historically been passive when not in power, and aggressive when in power. Things will not stay the same as they are in England for centuries and centuries. They never do. Everywhere in the world there will be a contest between the legal systems of shariah and civil law, or other religious courts, such as the Baha’i House of Justice. When they clash, it will be seen what the priorities really are for the communities. God watches all this with an eye that already knows the outcome, but allows us to choose how humanity will govern itself as a species on this planet.
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All right - that was just unfair to resurrect this thread. 😦 I thought it was a new thread and was all excited because I thought our friend paarsurrey was back! :eek:
 
Jay53 said:
All right - that was just unfair to resurrect this thread. 😦 I thought it was a new thread and was all excited because I thought our friend paarsurrey was back! :eek:
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I think the CAF Mods forgot poor Paars and kept him in “under review”.

Well between Paars & Planten, it was well how shall I put it… interesting! 😛
 
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