SSPX Bishop speaks to Young Catholics

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decn2b said:
I love it too especially when he says “and so on and so forth” right at the begining whe he talks about excommunication.

It sounded like “souannsofoth”
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I like when he says “not at all”

sounds like

“not tat tall”
 
LilyM said:
That’s why he said, and I quote, ‘the new mass does not express the sacrifice of propitiation’. :confused: How is that not a blanket statement against the NO rather than just against modernism?
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When he says the New Mass does not express sacrifice…he is talking about the NO Missal itself.

But he is not saying that NO Masses are NOT Sacrifices. Just that they do not express sacrifice the way the TLM does.

Hope that clears up what I meant.
 
Missa_Solemnis said:
Bishop Tissier is definitly not making heretical statements. He and Bishop Fellay are the ones organizing the reconciliation with Rome. Its Bishop Williamson and the other one that you need to watch out for.
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Bishop Williamson is politically incorrect but he’s not heretical in anything he says or believes. He and bishop Fellay agree on everything except Bishop Fellay is the more diplomatic. And Bishop DeGallereta is the most quiet of the SSPX bishops.

Williamson is an incredible man. I’ve met him and spoken with him. The reputation promoted by his enemies is completely wrong. He is much stronger than people expect him to be and he is much gentler than people expect. He’s got an amazing ability to inspire, to get to the essentials and his gentleness and perceptiveness in the confessional borders on the miraculous.

Archbishop LeFebvre taught them to be, “Lions on the pulpit and lambs in the confessional.” They are magnificent carers of souls and I’m really looking forward to an eventual regularization so the battle with modernism can get fully underway.
 
No. Williamson has enemies. That’s how I came to admire him. The accusations against him were so wild that I had to investigate. I found out how wise he is and how useful his advice for Catholics is as well as his perceptions about the world around us.

It’s a shame that the thread from the link you posted had all of my posts from 2003 deleted.

It’s one thing to disagree with the bishop. But only an enemy would try to distort what he actually states and prevent a fair hearing of his positions.
 
GerardP said:
No. Williamson has enemies. That’s how I came to admire him. The accusations against him were so wild that I had to investigate. I found out how wise he is and how useful his advice for Catholics is as well as his perceptions about the world around us.

It’s a shame that the thread from the link you posted had all of my posts from 2003 deleted.

It’s one thing to disagree with the bishop. But only an enemy would try to distort what he actually states and prevent a fair hearing of his positions.
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Please. Let’s not just say there are distortions. Let’s list them otherwise we just have more conspiracy theories.
 
bear06 said:
Please. Let’s not just say there are distortions. Let’s list them otherwise we just have more conspiracy theories.
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If I understand you correctly, that’s all well and good. Perhaps someone can point out where Bishop Fellay and Bishop Williamson disagree. And they can point out what heresy Bishop Williamson has indulged in.

The reason I say Williamson has enemies is because you can point out a person’s indisputable errors in black and white and find the same people repeating those errors again with no change.
 
The reason I say Williamson has enemies is because you can point out a person’s indisputable errors in black and white and find the same people repeating those errors again with no change
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Again, I ask what errors you are referring to?
 
Among these postings were references to priests doing Confirmations.
There is nothing new, strange or improper about this, depending on the circumstances.
Bl. Junípero Serra, as head of the Franciscans sent to evangelize California, was given the authority to confirm. It was a long walk or sea voyage for the Bishop of New Spain (México) to visit the missions.
More recently in area where the custom is to confirm at the time of baptism, the officiating priest, often a Vicar Forane (a sort of rural “assistant bishop”) is given faculties to do so. This also true in Eastern Rite Catholic Churches.
 
mystified said:
Among these postings were references to priests doing Confirmations.
There is nothing new, strange or improper about this, depending on the circumstances.
Bl. Junípero Serra, as head of the Franciscans sent to evangelize California, was given the authority to confirm. It was a long walk or sea voyage for the Bishop of New Spain (México) to visit the missions.
More recently in area where the custom is to confirm at the time of baptism, the officiating priest, often a Vicar Forane (a sort of rural “assistant bishop”) is given faculties to do so. This also true in Eastern Rite Catholic Churches.
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There is when the priests are suspended - very improper and because they don’t have the same jurisdiction as the bishops, they are likely invalid too. If you’ll notice the quote I gave, one of own forum member’s SSPX Confirmation by a priest was ruled invalid.
 
bear06 said:
Again, I ask what errors you are referring to?
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Calling him heretical without a single supporting statement for one. Posting quotes from his letters out of context without either having heard him speak on matters or removing the information that makes the original statement more understandable.

There is an often quoted comment about Bishop Williamson being questioned by the Canadian Government for alleged comments about the Holocaust. The quote has never been validated and the Canadian government spoke to him because he spoke out against homosexuality and considered that “hate speech”.
 
I can remember when ArchBishop Lefebvre came over from Econe back on May 17th 1980 to do confirmations at Post Falls, Idaho, families came from as far away as California, Colorado, Montana and, of course, Oregon and Washington. It was a real event. Some families hosted as many as 10 people for that Sunday.

Our priest Father DeBusschere sat on the church steps with the good ArchBishop and swapped stories to the delight of those of us who stayed late.

It was a funtime. A lot better than in 1988.
 
Calling him heretical without a single supporting statement for one. Posting quotes from his letters out of context without either having heard him speak on matters or removing the information that makes the original statement more understandable.
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Please be a little more specific. Which parts of letters are quoted out of context? What are the wild accusations? Is there something else other than he’s heretical? What do they say his heresy is?
 
Catholic29 said:
In the video Bishop De Mallerais is using a prosessional cross in place of the traditional crosier Latin-rite bishops have used. A break from tradition perhaps? Or was he using the crucifix as a teaching symbol for Christ’s shedding of blood on the cross?
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I didn’t get the whole using a processional cross as a croiser thing either. Either he wanted to use a crucifix for a croiser or he was teaching about the cross. Maybe the church had to improvise since he didn’t bring a croiser.
 
CathMass said:
I didn’t get the whole using a processional cross as a croiser thing either. Either he wanted to use a crucifix for a croiser or he was teaching about the cross. Maybe the church had to improvise since he didn’t bring a croiser.
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Your correct in that last conclusion.

Its very difficult to pack a crosier on an over sea flight.
 
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