SSPX Could Return This Week - Agreement With Rome Near

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I keep hearing that, but only at CAF.

I have never heard a priest or bishop state that the old Latin Mass “was no longer allowed”.
They did not have to SAY it. They just made it no longer available and followed what their Bishop locally told them. This was to not use the TLM, or do you think that each and every priest in the USA came to the same conclusion at the same time in history with out being told. I might be old, but even I don’t believe in this being a coincidence.
 
The SSPX is gravely WRONG to even suggest the Pauline Mass is invalid. Such comments make me wonder about the influence Satan has on any individual or institution making such erroneous and inflammatory comments…
And those that stopped the TLM were what? And Satan is dancing in the world watching the errors on both sides. My goal is to make Satan angry from frustration not to watch him dance.

All the turning of pages in books and not seeing what is actually happening in the world since the early 1970’s does not help change the situation.
 
Sure as soon as the bishops follow the MP and don’t keep telling the faithful there is no demand for the EF (TLM). Then we can all move on.
Bingo! My bishop issued a brief one paragraph statement in which he “acknowledged” the MP. It was followed by a scathing editorial the following week by the chancellor of the diocese who stated that “no one wants the TLM”.
 
Now why don’t we stick to the subject and all support a unity. I know it can be scary for those who play fast and loose with the faith, and for those who on the more Orthodox side. Both sides need to seek unity and a charity toward understanding each other.
I agree. I wish I could believe that Fellay had such a dedication to unity. There is another win/win solution that would not need any reconcilliation. That would be if the TLM was made available enough that every one would find a home in a parish faithful to the Holy Father. Also, it would help just a wee bit if the the fringe that dissents from both Church teaching and keeps trying to be liturgically innovative would be suppressed. I think we all understand the irritation this causes, even it we disagree to the degree.
 
I lived through the 1970s, and when my (Catholic) uncle died in 1978, his wife could not get a TLM for his funeral, she was told, “We don’t use that Mass anymore”.

Maybe things are different now, but let’s not try to claim the 1970s were not that way when they were.
 
I also pray for their return. Bringing them back along with members of the conservative Anglican Churches is what we need to bring together God’s Church as it once was. And to put an end to all this liberal theology and thinking. And to bring God back into the hearts and minds of our young Catholics. To give them the true faith they so desperately need.
 
I lived through the 1970s, and when my (Catholic) uncle died in 1978, his wife could not get a TLM for his funeral, she was told, “We don’t use that Mass anymore”.
That could have been a completely honest statement, within that parish. That’s a long way from “wrongful suppression”.
 
That could have been a completely honest statement, within that parish. That’s a long way from “wrongful suppression”.
The five parishes I lived in (I was in the service and then married) each expressed the same idea. The “old” mass was no longer allowed. Now I lived in four diocese in three states.
 
The five parishes I lived in (I was in the service and then married) each expressed the same idea. The “old” mass was no longer allowed. Now I lived in four diocese in three states.
I had a similar impression, that the old mass was not allowed in all of the parishes in this area.
 
The SSPX is gravely WRONG to even suggest the Pauline Mass is invalid.
Not the Pauline Mass, Spiller, the ICEL translations. Even the Vatican has admitted they want translations that don’t leave any doubt as to their validity.
 
My only question is this, what happened to the other three SSPX bishops? Fellay is only one of them, does he have the control of ALL SSPX activities?
 
Bingo! My bishop issued a brief one paragraph statement in which he “acknowledged” the MP. It was followed by a scathing editorial the following week by the chancellor of the diocese who stated that “no one wants the TLM”.
Those lying, schismatic, disobedient bishops are everywhere. :mad:

They should be excommunicated !

(That is if there are not double standards) 😉
 
My only question is this, what happened to the other three SSPX bishops? Fellay is only one of them, does he have the control of ALL SSPX activities?
Bishop Fellay is Superior General. All official information regarding the SSPX goes through him.
 
It’s not going to happen. It’s already Thursday here in our country, and there’s no word about it. No buzz or anything, as they say. If there is any news of this sort, it would be quite big, especially in a Catholic country like ours. But nada–it’ hasn’t made the noise it should make.
 
I hope it works out.

I’m curious on one thing though. One of the things SSPX wanted was the lifting of the the excommunions. In the case of Lefebvre what difference would it make. If someone has been excommunicated and they do not repent before death then they will go to Hell. Lifting the excommunication would not change that. He can’t move from Hell to Heaven.
No but that is the point the Vatican recoginses that the excommunication was not even valid. Therefore they are saying he did nothing wrong!
 
serious??? alrite. i’m the first person to raise my hand.
Deo gratias…👍
 
No but that is the point the Vatican recoginses that the excommunication was not even valid. Therefore they are saying he did nothing wrong!
When did the Vatican say they were not valid? Its irrelevant if one or the other bishops or cardinals has such a personal opinion. As far as I know the excommunications are still in place. I have seen no declarations to the contrary from the Pope who is the only one who can lift them.
 
Going back a bit in posts, isn’t it entirely likely that some dioceses are adopting tactics used by the mainstream media–telling us what to think till we believe it? Maybe if they keep saying “No one wants TLM,” we’ll shut up and they won’t have to learn Latin. Bam. Easy as pie.
 
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